One of 'Star Trek's' greatest captains had us scratching our heads
October 6th, 2011
04:32 PM ET

One of 'Star Trek's' greatest captains had us scratching our heads

When Kate Mulgrew, the actress best known for playing Captain Janeway on "Star Trek: Voyager," took on the role of Kove in Adult Swim's procedural show spoof, "NTSF: SD: SUV::," "Star Trek" fans were not sure of what to think about it.

After all, the "Trek" crowd can be a fickle bunch. Witness the backlash against Wesley Crusher from "Star Trek: The Next Generation." It's only been in recent years that fans have really embraced Wil Wheaton as a nerd hero.

The show has been on the air since July on the network (which is owned by Time Warner, which also owns CNN), and Mulgrew told CNN Geek Out that fans have since warmed up to her character in a big way.

"These fans are very loyal, and they're very game and very smart, and they love to roll with it," she said, adding, "Janeway is their captain, whether she's in an insane asylum or not."

Mulgrew made history as the first female captain to be the lead character in a "Star Trek" series.

"She plays a strong leader with great instincts when it comes to tactical situations as well as leadership," said Mike Miller, a hardcore Trekker in Atlanta. "She places her crew (which of course is made up of StarFleet as well as Maquis Rebels) as her highest priority."

Miller said he would rank Janeway third, behind the two most popular captains, Kirk and Picard.

As for the present day, Mulgrew is now playing a character so absurd that at one point, she wanders around obsessing about whether she was invited to a birthday party.

"She is definitely obsessed with Trent (creator Paul Scheer's character), obsessed with sex and obsessed with herself and her hairdo."

The procedural show spoof (think "CSI: Miami" or NCIS") caught Mulgrew's attention right away: "I said yes immediately when they offered it to me. It's such a departure from everything I've done."

Mulgrew's former "Voyager" colleague Robert Picardo also guest starred on an episode.

"They said they wanted a creepy guy, and I said, Bob Picardo!" she revealed. "He was deliciously creepy."

And never fear, Trekkers. If Mulgrew has her way, there will be more guest spots like that. "I want to get all my pals on it, and I think Paul is game for it. John deLancie would be wonderful. Finally, people would find out how funny we are!"

Mulgrew is proud to say that she never phoned it in at any point on "Voyager," something her fans truly appreciate. "It was really hard work, and I'm really proud of it. And I was the first woman!"

She also gave her theory as to why "Star Trek" has endured for 45 years: "It's captured the imagination of people who understand that all of science is a leap of faith. People who are linear thinkers (in that way) are attracted to the patterns of 'Star Trek,' which is a metaphor for how we live. The starship stands for the human species being lost and hoping to find itself again."

Mulgrew is most definitely a science geek, as well: "I can't live without the Science Times. And I always keep (the works of the late physicist) Richard Feynman by my bedside."

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  1. RdtheLiterature

    I really liked Voyager. It was a modern tng. I do not know why people get so upset about it. The episodes were intelligent, and Janeway was gutsy. She didn't F*** around. She had faith in their ability to get home, no matter what they met along the way. Kirk is the first, Picard is Patrick Stewart...we all grew up on that. But Sisko? what was with that whole prophet, religion crap...I always thought that was retarded. Stick to being a commander and stay out of other alien religious crap. Archer was crap, Bakula was really hot with is shirt off...that's all i have to say. I liked the T'pol character but I'm pretty sure the first female vulcan would've been as straight and pointy as their ears, and would never had explored the idea of sleeping with a shipmate. Janeway was a strong captain.

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  4. Steffan Piper

    Yes ...

    Will Wheaton = Nerd Hero.

    Best part of the whole article.

    October 25, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
  5. DB

    I guess Kate Mulgrew is a Snake Plissken fan, or perhaps a Dr. Who season 6 fan 2 ๐Ÿ˜‰

    October 11, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
  6. Jack Love

    Best enemy captains:

    The Romulan from the Warbird in the first series.
    The Gorn.
    Tasha Yar's offspring (another Romulan).

    October 11, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      The Gorn was a great captain? Janos Prohaska in a reptile suit...I liked him better as the Horta, but there's no accounting for taste.

      October 11, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
    • Harry Kuheim

      She was the first MILF in the Galaxcy!

      October 11, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
    • Josh

      Do you mean the Romulan played by Mark Lenard (aka Spock's father, Sarek) ??

      October 25, 2011 at 12:05 pm |
  7. Chartreuxe

    All the complaints about how Janeway's the worst of the captains is certainly damning with faint praise.

    October 11, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
  8. McMoose

    Star Trek's worst captain, actually. Voyager was a terrible, terrible series. Sisko, Picard, Kirk, Archer, Janeway is the correct order. But I can't fault Mulgrew for the horrible Voyager writers and producers.

    October 11, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
    • PZ

      I can't believe you would put Sisko above Picard! I think they were both really cool in their own way. For me it would be a tie. Janeway was definitely better than Archer. C'mon. Scott Bakula...seriously. He was very unlikeable and in fact somehow reminded me of George W. Bush. Franchise went downhill after Enterprise. Coincidence? I think not.

      October 19, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
    • Mike in NJ

      I agree, Sisko/Picard tied, the rest in the rigth order, and I agree it was the writing. I remember a line from the very first Voyager epsiode: "Sometimes you have to push right thru!" before the climactic, risky-as-hell maneuver, and unnecessary if I recall correctly. She could have been gutsy without being dumb. But she IS funny in this, and seeing ST people in cameos is really hilarious!!

      October 20, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
    • Josh

      I don't count the captain from a TV series, unless that series lasted 7 seasons.

      BTW, for most of DS9, Sisko was merely a commander, no?

      That leave just Picard and Janeway as candidates for consideration.

      October 25, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
  9. anna

    She's awesome, no matter what she does. She's also been on Warehouse 13 on Syfy, what a treat!!!

    October 10, 2011 at 11:12 pm |
  10. Michael Wong

    That woman's voice is the most horrid thing I've ever heard. It's like taking a normal woman's voice and somehow applying 80-grit sandpaper to it.

    October 10, 2011 at 8:59 am |
  11. allynom

    I remember she was so good in it

    October 9, 2011 at 11:28 pm |
  12. Jay

    Once a trekkie always a trekkie. I am a trekkie not a trekker. Trekkies are Romulans to Vulcan Trekkers.

    October 9, 2011 at 11:08 pm |
    • asgardshill

      I would equate Trekkies to the Pakled, not the Romulans. Mostly overweight, technically challenged, and socially inept.

      October 10, 2011 at 7:48 pm |
  13. asgardshill

    re Kate Mulgrew: Apparently once you leave Starfleet, you can eat all you want.

    October 9, 2011 at 9:47 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      For once in her life she's not underweight and this is your comment? One wonders what's in your mirror...

      October 10, 2011 at 10:17 am |
      • Orion Pax

        Underweight, my red-shirted ar5e. She was leaning towards the high side of 'normal' BMI range during Voyager.

        October 25, 2011 at 5:44 pm |
  14. asgardshill

    I would still bust Wesley Crusher right across his mouth if I ever met him in person, just for GPs. (Not Wil Wheaton though – he's a decent guy.)

    October 9, 2011 at 9:42 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      Envy's unattractive.

      October 10, 2011 at 10:16 am |
      • asgardshill

        And projection is not just a Bell and Howell exclusive any more.

        October 10, 2011 at 7:44 pm |
    • Nadine

      Thanks for making the distinction between Whil Wheaton and the character Wesley Crusher. Poor Wesley was such a badly written character, introduced as a prodigy, a genius of promise, where can such a character go? Whil did a great acting job, and I like his TNG episodes now. I wish I had seen more of Wesley's wonderful ability to "play music" with space time!

      October 11, 2011 at 2:08 pm |
      • Chartreuxe

        It's *Wil* Wheaton, Nadine.

        Carry on.

        October 12, 2011 at 10:19 am |
      • Ensign Nerdley

        I agree. I never liked Wesley Crusher much (he grew from a dweeb into a dick), but I like Wil Wheaton a lot. First season of TNG, I had to keep reminding myself, "He was great in Stand By Me, he was great in Stand By Me..."

        October 24, 2011 at 6:38 pm |
    • Sheldon@asgardshill


      October 12, 2011 at 7:46 am |
    • Josh

      Wesley Crusher was Eugene Wesley Roddenberry's alter ego. Gene just had to write into ST:TNG a character that was himself as a teenager. It just shows what happens when one lets ego guide your actions.

      Don't forget that massive letter writing campaign during the 1st season, demanding to get rid of that darn Crusher character. And then we all watched in horror when the 2nd season started, and Dr Bev Crusher was the character that was missing.

      October 25, 2011 at 12:14 pm |
  15. Eugen

    Sisko all the way. DS9 was IMHO one of the best star trek series ever made. The show really took off in writing and story when season 4 started, then the remaining seasons going into the Dominion war storyline.

    October 9, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
  16. j0eschm0e

    Im sorry, but she looks like a klingon with that eye patch

    October 9, 2011 at 8:54 am |
  17. j0eschm0e

    the Tv series is boring, we want more Star Trek Movies !! and the producers "know" the movies will generate serious money. I want to see a series of 3 movies that take from the newest Star Trek, something wayyy more epic, ie. LOTR, ones that are connected and take the 3 movies to tell the story. Space movies facinate me. Im getting tired of watching the latest Star Trek movie over and over lol, but am serious that they just can not stop making Star Trek !! It is their duty go above and beyond. I really think the movie inspires, and can possibly lead to ideas that can/will take us into space. someone some day will invent a way. Always, look to the stars.

    October 9, 2011 at 8:52 am |
    • Robert

      i wouldn't mind more Star Trek, but NOT a continuation of Enterprise. No cheesy "It's been a long road..." theme songs by Diane Warren. Put in some decent writing and some decent acting. Enterprise was only good in its last 6-7 episodes, after they found out they were canceled and had nothing to lose.

      October 10, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
  18. Beefburger

    @ Chartreuxe, Cpt. Pike was also in a major motion picture as well!

    Janeway was everyone's mother, never really a captain that had to make the hard calls like Kirk and Picard had.

    Sisko was never really given the chance except for one time that the station had to cowboy-up. Loved how Sisko always was at a boil and smacked the crap out of Q. Thats true ballz to pop an omnipotent being that could obliterate you with a thought in the mouth.

    But I gotta love Kirk, never had a prejudiced moment, to him it was "all pink in the middle" =P I wonder how many 1/2 & 1/2 Kirklings there are out there?

    October 9, 2011 at 4:28 am |
    • everything in moderation

      Not true. In fact, she made a hard call at the series opening, which resulted in the premise of being stuck in the Delta Quadrant to begin with. and, as an example of gut wrenching hard choices, watch "Year of Hell" the episodes.

      October 9, 2011 at 9:32 am |
    • Chartreuxe

      Yes, Pike reappeared. That was 43 years into the franchise and as a rebooted character. So you're late to our ranks?

      The parasites were there. It happened.

      Adulthood begins when one begins to accept the world for what it is and stops expecting the world to adjust to one's expectations and desires.

      October 9, 2011 at 12:21 pm |
    • Nadine

      Captain Janeway was the Captain that faced difficult decisions the most out of all 5 series, imo.

      October 11, 2011 at 2:10 pm |
      • Chartreuxe


        October 12, 2011 at 10:20 am |
      • Josh

        She was also the only Captain who's uniform didn't change.

        October 25, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
  19. Beefburger

    The Next Gen episode about the parasites that take over Star Fleet operations NEVER HAPPENED. Deny, deny, DENY!!!


    October 9, 2011 at 3:58 am |
    • Chartreuxe

      Kardashian? What's a Kardashian? I'm unfamiliar with that species.

      October 12, 2011 at 10:21 am |
  20. tom the majority of people here these fantasy characters are actually real! Now how pathetic is that.......

    October 9, 2011 at 2:23 am |
    • OneOfTheSheep

      No, Tom

      Pathetic is the individual that cannot summon the "look and feel" of a well-developed character. You'd know that if you read books, where much of the illusion and special effects must come spring from within a fertile mind. Someone has to have "vision", whether the writer, actor, producer or director.

      There is a certain level of professional proficiency necessary before we can make the leap from our day-to-day reality into the world thus created. In THAT world AND ever after in our minds these people exist. I think that's wonderful!

      October 10, 2011 at 1:22 am |
  21. rkersh

    Mulgrew was Captain Lame . . . . the network vips were only doing the politically correct thingy . . . Voyager was the p...y cruise . . . not a strong male character among them . . . liked Kirk the best . . . shoot first . . . screw your way across the galaxy . . . spread the seed . . . aaahhhh . . .

    October 9, 2011 at 1:50 am |
  22. clh

    Let me try and get this, she has a book by Feynman and refers to science all of science as a leap of faith?!?

    October 8, 2011 at 10:40 pm |
  23. jay in florida

    Janeway was the worst Captain character in the entire history of Star Trek.

    October 8, 2011 at 9:34 pm |
    • angusantilles

      Why HYJ... I am surprised at you, lol '-)

      October 9, 2011 at 7:20 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      Damning with faint praise.

      I will sum up: all the captains were awesome so if Janeway is the least of the best she's still amazing.

      October 12, 2011 at 10:23 am |
  24. Ocekit

    Fave Captains: Picard, Kirk, & Janeway

    Voyager was fun for me to watch because of the tongue-and-cheek humor they often showed, and I enjoyed Janeway as captain.
    And to be honest, I don't find her current role on NTSF:SD:SUV to be as much of a stretch as the article suggests.

    October 8, 2011 at 4:47 pm |
  25. chris

    I go to alot of star trek conventions and I have never met anyone who considers her worthy of being a captain. Who in there right mind would believe a woman could ever captain a starship. pure fantasy.

    October 8, 2011 at 4:29 pm |
    • dallaspj


      October 8, 2011 at 10:30 pm |
      • MistressJ


        October 9, 2011 at 5:05 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      Lamest flamebait ever.

      October 12, 2011 at 10:24 am |
  26. starrygirk

    Ha, Star Trek rocks! I named my kid Kasidy after Kasidy Yates. She will thank me forever!

    October 8, 2011 at 3:13 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      One hopes...

      October 12, 2011 at 10:25 am |
  27. Moe Smith

    trekkies - more pathetic than star wars fanbois

    October 8, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • ARH

      That's "Trekker" and "fan boy", respectively, thank you. And I think you either understand Trek – its entertainment value, philosophical relevance, respect for science, and ethical stance – or you should just stick to Jersey Shore.

      October 8, 2011 at 4:02 pm |
  28. Erik

    It is funny reading the passions that people have about Trek in these posts. I have not seen this show that the article is talking about as I do not have cable and do not plan on getting it, but it sounds like Mulgrew has found something fun and different in which to exercise her talents. I liked her character in STVOY very much, seeing her as a combination in many ways of Kirk and Picard, but also very much herself, too. In the spirit of many of these posts, I suppose I should throw down where I stand on a couple of the series so that people will have a sense of where to peg me. I grew up with Kirk, came to appreciate Picard, was intrigued by Sisko, and was greatly impressed with Janeway. My son has grown up with Archer, and I like his character as a precursor to Kirk and wish that his voyages could have gone for another couple of seasons. I thought the Abrams' Trek was a brilliant synthesis of Roddenberry and Lucas, but I don't see much happening with the film franchise as a result. At the pace Paramount is moving, the actors will be demonstrably older before the next installment. Time for Paramount to consider another animated series as Lucasfilm has been doing.

    October 8, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
  29. pattigee

    What about Data? To me, he is the greatest of them all – gentle but waaaaay intelligent – plus he had all the parts and abilities to make him "a real man".

    October 8, 2011 at 12:32 pm |
    • Lisa H

      I agree – sign up Brent Spiner! I saw him in Denver a couple of years ago, and his comic timing is impeccable – knocking us dead the whole night!

      October 8, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
      • Ted

        If you want to see Brent Spiner at his funniest look here

        October 9, 2011 at 2:20 am |
    • Nadine

      Brent Spiner as Data was fantastic!

      October 11, 2011 at 2:12 pm |
  30. Jeremy

    DS9 / Sisko by far... Enterprise was brutal (mainly the storyline – don't think prequels work when you have such a hugely established theme and history... Just asking to wreck what you've made).

    For those who are complaining about DS9 (and the one who said it was in trouble due to the fact is had pre-established 'tertiary' characters on it)... DS9 had some pretty amazing character development. Sisko, going from Commander to Captain, from wanting to be anywhere but there to war hero. I think having O'Brian and Worf there added to the great story – you bring in two characters who we know, and develop them more? Worf had 7 years of character and story development, O'Brian had a few. I remember in one of their interviews (I want to say Avery Brooks, but I can't remember now, it was one of the DS9 cast members) had said the good thing about being stuck on a space station was that it allowed for them to explore themselves (their characters) unlike any other series had allowed – I totally agree. Story development, character development and action were spectacular in DS9.

    As for the rest.. TNG and Voyager were good. TOS was alright (never really got into that one – way before my time), Enterprise was a train wreck.

    October 8, 2011 at 10:25 am |
    • Terry

      Enterprise would have been a fantastic 2 hour movie

      October 9, 2011 at 9:38 am |
    • asgardshill

      I'm still annoyed with Enterprise because the name of the first captain of the starship Enterprise wasn't named Robert April. (And before you beat me into submission, I know the animated series wasn't canon. But still ...)

      November 5, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
  31. Quid Malmborg in Plano TX

    Trekkies: GET A LIFE

    Real people watch Doctor Who.

    October 8, 2011 at 9:39 am |
    • VegasRage

      I've watched Dr. Who, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.

      October 8, 2011 at 11:42 am |
    • Quid Malmborg in Plano, TX

      @VegasRage: "yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn" That's what I told your mom.

      October 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm |
    • TimmyDWSTV

      I watch both ๐Ÿ˜› Does that mean I have a life, but am also cultured?? PS- I think Janeway was the BEST Captain even above Picard and definitely above Kirk

      October 8, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
    • Ryan

      Doctor Who is the man!! Sonic Screwdriver. "Bow ties are cool!" "Fezes are cool!" Great show

      October 8, 2011 at 10:48 pm |
      • Timelord

        Want a jelly baby? (Tom Baker)

        October 10, 2011 at 12:38 am |
      • Who M.D.

        allons y, alonzo!

        David Tennant was the best star trek captain!

        October 11, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      So your head will explode when you learn there are many who can appreciate both series and have done so for decades?

      October 11, 2011 at 9:34 am |
      • AleeD

        Hear, hear. Head hasn't exploded yet .... now ... where'd I leave my Tardis .... ?

        October 12, 2011 at 7:22 am |
  32. charles

    Kirk, Sisko, Picard, Janeway, Archer
    Kirk and Sisko are better than picard because they are more action oriented. Picard's character doesn't bode well for a TV/Movies series "hero".
    Novel? Sure. But I want to blow stuff up

    October 8, 2011 at 9:07 am |
  33. Dan

    I love Kate and her appearance on Warehouse 13.

    October 8, 2011 at 12:00 am |
  34. Steve McMullan

    One of Star Trek's greatest Captains? Well, she was in the top five anyway... (-;

    Besides, Sisko was the best captain and DS9 was (by far) the best Trek show.

    October 7, 2011 at 11:59 pm |
  35. LisaM

    Kirk and Janeway for tough situations. Picard for more covert operations. Sisko for all out war. Archer for missions of discovery. And there were a few female captains prior to Janeway. The one in that Next Gen episode about the parasites that take over Star Fleet operations. The captain in Star Trek 4, about the whales. And there must be others. But Janeway was the first with her own series.

    Oh how I love reading peoples opinions about Trek. Better than someone saying what is Star Trek?

    October 7, 2011 at 8:47 pm |
  36. TK

    I was a kid in the 90's but I was absolutely obsessed with TNG. Never got into DS9 or Voyager but I recently (the past year) enjoyed the heck out of Enterprise (Archer). Maybe I just don't remember the discrepencies so could some kind trekie please explain to me why Enterprise was an abomination?

    October 7, 2011 at 6:13 pm |
    • Ituri

      It wasn't anything timeline speaking that made it awful. The plots were 2 diminsional, the Vulcan was a model h oo ker in a catsuit, and the characters and acting were badly panned out in general. Not saying it isn't worth seeing once, but it doesn't live up to the whole Trek thing.

      October 7, 2011 at 7:39 pm |
    • Jennifer

      I think that makes you the only trek fan in the world who admits publicly they enjoyed enterprise.....

      October 7, 2011 at 8:49 pm |
      • OneOfTheSheep

        Count me in as a big fan of Archer and T'Pol! T'Pol! T'Pol! I liked Enterprise wayyyyy more than Voyager and it's dysfunctional "crew".

        The episode where warp speed was first achieved by a human and "we" were welcomed into the "universe" of space-faring races by Vulcans was simply marvelous. A most credible extrapolation of how our current "generations "X" and "Y" may pan out.

        October 7, 2011 at 10:21 pm |
      • Tom J

        I really enjoyed Enterprise, too. Sad thing was it was getting better when they cancelled it. Never understood why so called fans would rather kill a show and have nothing on TV, than support it and try to make it better.

        October 7, 2011 at 11:01 pm |
      • voradtralundir

        I liked Enterprise also. I enjoyed the development of the engineer as a character. Archer was "Quantum Leap" in a Star Fleet uniform and I did not find him exciting to watch. His relationship with the Andorian Captain was wonderful. The latter episodes were great improvements and I did enjoy that when the Enterprise first went into space they got their buns kicked by every other space faring race. It set the tone for how I would imagine Star Fleet would begin – sort of like the infant United States Navy. It was a well done series. And I have to agree with the comment about T'Pol in the catsuit. That was a dead on.

        October 8, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
      • Ryan

        I enjoyed Enterprise. It took place a hundred years prior to TOS to show where things started.

        October 8, 2011 at 10:52 pm |
  37. Yakobi.

    To quote Ogre, "NERRRRDS!!!"

    October 7, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
    • ohsnap

      Thanks for the compliment!

      All the nerds at NASA who are Star Trek fans.

      October 8, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      Guess you think you've insulted us. Guess again.

      October 11, 2011 at 9:36 am |
      • Ensign Nerdley

        Psst. He's making a joke. Don't be so touchy.

        October 24, 2011 at 6:40 pm |
  38. Mathew

    PS. I am not counting that last disaster of a pre-quel as a real ST movie... I was referring to the one where ADMIRAL Janeway talks to Picard on the viewscreen. : )

    October 7, 2011 at 4:40 pm |
    • Blatent Sarcasm

      She got kicked upstairs

      October 7, 2011 at 10:00 pm |
  39. Mathew

    Janeway IS already an Admiral per the last ST movie... there is no question who would be promoted first, it has already been done.

    October 7, 2011 at 4:38 pm |
  40. George

    Voyager jumped the shark so many times, it wasn't even funny. As far as who's the best captain, it is a silly argument. The writers wrote any gimic they could to save the Voyager from near impossible solutions, that no meaningful analysis could be made.

    October 7, 2011 at 4:03 pm |
  41. Matt

    Sisco and DS9 are my favorite mostly because Dominion War was so good. It was also interesting learning about the races which most the rest of the series don't tell you a lot about the other races outside of the Klingons which are everywhere. The only thing about DS9 was how Sisco was just a Captain but managed entire fleets. Didn't make much sense to me. Janeway and Voyager are my second favorite series. Enterprise is so boring I can't watch it and TOS has its charms but most of the episodes today are laughable. Patrict Stewart was the best actor out of the group.

    October 7, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
    • Bob Bichen

      DS9 was absolutely outstanding. But you had to wade through 3 full seasons until it started to get good (season 4; the Dominion War heats up, the epic battle at DS9 with the Klingons, etc.). One of my all time faves.

      October 7, 2011 at 3:47 pm |
  42. Joe from CT, not Lieberman

    Yeah, but also check her out on Warehouse 13 as one of the Regents, and the mother of one of the field agents! She is definitely a more vulnerable character on that show than she was on Voyager.

    October 7, 2011 at 3:23 pm |
    • Corgigrrl

      loved her in WH13 & Jeri Ryan also.

      October 7, 2011 at 11:09 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      So female characters are only enjoyable when they're vulnerable? Really?

      Should that be interpreted to mean no female should be in a position of power in any role? Not trying to put words on your keyboard here, just curious as to your meaning.

      October 11, 2011 at 9:40 am |
  43. GavilanSalvaje

    Anyone who says Pike is their favorite Captain has got to be kidding. One Episode as Captain and one episode as a passenger? Seriously?

    October 7, 2011 at 3:06 pm |
    • Corgigrrl

      oh but he was soooo dreamy!!

      October 7, 2011 at 10:59 pm |
      • Tom J

        Nobody beeped their lines like Pike did! ๐Ÿ™‚

        October 7, 2011 at 11:04 pm |
  44. phantom phlyer

    Sisko was great but we all know that Cheif O'Brian kept DS9 in order.

    October 7, 2011 at 3:03 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      My spouse, Blazer, an officer in the Navy, says the Chiefs run the entire organization.

      October 11, 2011 at 9:41 am |
  45. John Smyth

    Feynman was the "gold standard".

    October 7, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
  46. cpc65

    I heard that some Trek actors have trouble finding work after their show is done, but this is one step above reading that they're homless. Maybe she was standing along Santa Monica Blvd holding a dirty cardboard sign that said "Will act for food".

    October 7, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
    • Sue

      You have to watch an episode. It's sick, stupid, and funny at the same time, but certainly not for everyone. She said she took it because it's a departure from anything she's ever done. I believe her. The show is way OUT there.

      October 8, 2011 at 10:14 am |
    • Chartreuxe

      'Homeless?' Really? That's quite a stretch, CPC65.

      Shatner lived in his pickup truck for a while after the first series, but that was more due to his extreme divorce than anything else. He gave his ex-wife and three daughters everything: house, money, dogs, horses. He lived at campgrounds for a while in a camper on the back of his truck. Some fathers do that because they care about their children and some divorce lawyers were rabid grizzlies in the sixties. Shatner got hosed.

      October 11, 2011 at 9:46 am |
  47. I'm so right

    7 of 9; Troi, the Vulcan from Enterprise, baby oil, and a kiddie pool... best story arc ever.

    October 7, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • Dude in Colorado

      Tasha Yar takes on the winner of that one!

      October 8, 2011 at 11:31 am |
      • Chartreuxe

        You wish.

        November 5, 2011 at 4:10 pm |
  48. Tripp

    Science is NOT a "Leap of Faith".

    October 7, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
    • GavilanSalvaje

      Explain Dark Matter then.

      October 7, 2011 at 4:34 pm |
      • Ituri

        Its the opposite side of the coin to gravity, tearing things apart instead of allowing them to cycle back together. It relates to how fast the universe is spreading apart.

        An expert could tell you lots more, but it is certainly correct to say that science has nothing to do with "leaping faithfully." We may not have ALL the answers, but thats the POINT of further exploration.

        October 7, 2011 at 7:47 pm |
      • DVB

        Ituri is actually describing dark energy, not dark matter.

        Dark matter is assumed to be infused in and surrounding the galaxies because the orbital velocities of the stars in the outer regions of the galaxies are too high to be accounted for by the mass of the visible matter. It is therefore assumed that there must be more matter in the galaxy than can be seen.

        It is called "dark matter" because it does not radiate, does not interact with light in the way that normal baryonic matter does, and just to give it a name. It has not yet been directly detected.

        October 7, 2011 at 9:29 pm |
  49. ScifiFan

    Defiant – best ship
    First 3 years of DS9 and Voyager were ok. Both became much better with cast changes. Enterprise was really bad but was just starting to find it's footing (that time shifting madness was just a bad way to go) when it focused on the Federation becoming the Federation.

    Captains depends on the situation:

    Emergency situation, space exploration, low chance of survival – I go with Kirk or Janeway. They are the biggest risk takers and willing to try something out of the box.

    War, diplomatic mission, border dispute with the possibility of a battle – I go with Sisko or Picard. Steadier and more level headed.

    Which would you promote to Admiral first?
    Or, a better question, which would make good Admirals?

    1) Archer
    2) Sisko
    3) Picard
    4) Janeway
    5) Kirk

    October 7, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
    • jimmer

      ahhhhhh........time to get a

      October 7, 2011 at 6:09 pm |
      • Umptysquat

        If you didn't want to play along, move along please.

        October 8, 2011 at 3:19 pm |
    • Deela

      Answering your admiral question:
      1) Picard
      2) Sisko
      3) Janeway
      4) Archer
      5) Kirk

      October 12, 2011 at 7:31 am |
  50. Idrankwhat

    The last two seasons of DS9 focused around the domininon wars was the best Star Trek ever to be on TV, hands down.

    October 7, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
    • Jason

      I agree Seasons 5-7 DS9 was the best, some say it was too dark, I disagree. The Dominion was the ultimate enemy,

      October 7, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
  51. Fred Evil

    Janeway kicks Sisko's butt, hands down! LOVE Janeway.
    Thanks for the heads up on the show, I was not aware, and will have to watch!!

    October 7, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
    • TimmyDWSTV

      I AGREE ;-D

      October 8, 2011 at 7:22 pm |
  52. Greg

    MMMMMmmmmmmmm.....7 of 9...To be a teen in those late 90's...

    October 7, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
    • ChronicMb

      Beep Beep... 7 of 9 tissues already used... Beep Beep...

      October 7, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
  53. OneOfTheSheep

    Of them all, and I've watched them all, I would want Captain Picard to defend the Federation; and he would also be the one I would prefer to serve under. He selected or developed the best of those under him and did not micro-manage. That allowed him to make the decisions he believed HE had to make. A fine example of the best possible leadership principles.

    October 7, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
  54. Kirk

    Yeah but has she ever slept with a green woman before?

    October 7, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
    • Bones

      No... but there was that really hot ex-Borg.

      October 7, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
  55. saopaco

    Holy cr@p!! Kate is starting to look like my ex-wife!
    ....I will never watch Voyager again!

    October 7, 2011 at 12:14 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      You're thinking with the little head again, Saopaco. Reverse your engines.

      October 7, 2011 at 6:07 pm |
      • saopaco

        All I was trying to do was realign the phase buffer. honest! =)

        October 7, 2011 at 6:50 pm |
      • CT

        Careful man, you're gonna blow an EPS conduit!

        October 9, 2011 at 6:35 am |
    • Chartreuxe

      Always the same excuse.

      October 7, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
  56. David

    I would put Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Archer, and Janeway in different starships and let them battle it out...winner take all....LOL

    October 7, 2011 at 12:11 pm |
    • saopaco

      My money is on Defiant!

      October 7, 2011 at 12:15 pm |
      • Interesting

        I would say Voyager would win, at the end of the series it had future technology integrated into their systems. I mean, it was strong enough to take down a lot of borg.

        October 7, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
      • Trek Nerd

        Defiant 4 sure!

        October 7, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
    • Rob123

      My money's on Kirk. Can you say "Kobayashi Maru"?

      October 7, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    • WetDream

      I would like to see an animated spoof version of Star Trek ala Sealab with Sterling Archer as the new Captain...

      October 7, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
    • Rom

      Archer wouldn't even make to the battle... run into a moon or something. It's probably just as well. You put a tractor beam on the first Enterprise it would wet itself and shake to pieces. Hull plating, uh huh.

      October 7, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
  57. Fred

    Ugh. Worst captain ever.

    October 7, 2011 at 12:05 pm |
    • Howie

      Got that right!

      October 7, 2011 at 12:11 pm |
    • GavilanSalvaje

      Really? How many ships did Picard lose?

      October 7, 2011 at 3:08 pm |
      • Chartreuxe

        Counting the films, at least one.

        November 5, 2011 at 4:13 pm |
  58. FormerMarineSgt

    "One of 'Star Trek's' greatest captains had us scratching our heads"

    Huh? Since when was she one of Star Trek's greatest captains? The show was HORRIBLE.

    She's not even close to the top 50 captains, let alone the top 10!!!

    October 7, 2011 at 11:52 am |
    • Shizman

      Never a truer statement was ever spoken (typed).

      October 7, 2011 at 12:04 pm |
      • Fred Evil

        Are you kidding? She was awesome!

        October 7, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
    • Dude in Colorado

      Too right! Say what you want about Capt. Archer (Enterprise NX-01) but at least he got his people home from wherever he wound up!The series wasn't about a bunch of people who, um, well, got lost!

      October 8, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
      • TimmyDWSTV

        UM, HI. She did get them home

        October 8, 2011 at 7:26 pm |
  59. Mike

    I may be the only person in the world to say this, but Sisko is my favorite "captain" by far, followed by Picard, then New Kirk, then Kirk, then Janeway, and I never once watched Enterprise, so I have no idea on Archer. I didn't really like Voyager in general, but DS:9 was the best of the Star Trek Series'.

    October 7, 2011 at 11:51 am |
    • Buggy

      Yes, I thought I was the only one. DS9 is my favorite as well. I found it much more complex and interesting than the others.

      October 7, 2011 at 12:05 pm |
      • Fred Evil

        Really? I thought DS9 sucked at the end. Not so much fun when you can't GO anywhere,so they invent the Defiant, and it essentially became a totally different show. And a lot crappier IMHO.

        October 7, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • saopaco

      The Sisko is of Bajor.

      October 7, 2011 at 12:06 pm |
    • Howie

      Enterprise isn't very good, but hands down beats Voyager. Archer is MUCH better than Janeway. DS9 was my favorite series and Sisko the best captain as far as I'm concerned.

      October 7, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
    • Sak123

      Original series will never be touched.
      TNG a close second
      Voyager was a great show
      Enterprise was good, but never really caught on.
      DS9 was brutal.

      October 7, 2011 at 12:44 pm |
      • ajk68


        October 7, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
      • ajk68

        On second thought, I would put TNG before Star Trek (the original). Better scripting and a plot arc to follow.

        October 7, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
  60. Rich

    Every time I see Mulgrew call herself the first female captain, I wince–she most certainly was NOT. There were several other women who portrayed captains on Star Trek long before she did. And for the most part, they were far better actors than she was.

    October 7, 2011 at 11:45 am |
    • John R


      1. Mulgrew has never called herself anything. CNN's 'geekout' writer made a reference to her being the first captain. If you don't agree, take it up with CNN. But before you do, read point number...

      2. ...the article said, "Mulgrew made history as the first female captain to be the lead character in a "Star Trek" series." Majel Barret was the first female fact, with Pike, was arguable the first Star Trek captain, period. But Mulgrew was the first "to be a lead character".

      3. "Every time I see Mulgrew call herself..." Every time? What other times??

      Not trying to be mean, Rich. Just helping you to see a bias about yourself that I had in my teens and twenties and that many people still do. You're reading something that isn't there. (and if you want to learn a bit more about yourself, ask yourself why you read it that'll become a better person for doing so).

      October 7, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
      • GavilanSalvaje

        Majel Barrert was Number One for Pike, and was Nurse Chapel for Kirk and was Troi's mom for Picard. I don't think she was ever a Captain.

        October 7, 2011 at 2:53 pm |
      • Ann

        Don't forget, she was the computer voice, too!

        October 7, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
      • Mike

        Actually - he read something that is there:

        "Mulgrew is proud to say that she never phoned it in at any point on 'Voyager,' something her fans truly appreciate. 'It was really hard work, and I'm really proud of it. And I was the first woman!'"

        October 7, 2011 at 5:30 pm |
    • John R


      1. Mulgrew has never called herself anything. CNN's 'Geek Out!' writer made a reference to her being the first captain. If you don't agree, take it up with CNN. But before you do, read point number...

      2. ...the article said, "Mulgrew made history as the first female captain to be the lead character in a "Star Trek" series." Majel Barret was the first female fact, with Pike, was arguable the first Star Trek captain, period. But Mulgrew was the first "to be a lead character".

      3. "Every time I see Mulgrew call herself..." Every time? What other times??

      Not trying to be mean, Rich. Just helping you to see a bias about yourself that I had in my teens and twenties and that many people still do. You're reading something that isn't there. (and if you want to learn a bit more about yourself, ask yourself why you read it that'll become a better person for doing so).

      October 7, 2011 at 2:12 pm |
  61. Howie

    Can't believe Janeway is even considered a captain from Star Trek. Voyager was by far the worst attempt to cash in on Star Trek ever devised, Mulgrew was the worst casting decision, and Janeway was the worst written captain. Her acting was terrible, she obviously did not believe the part. Her recent claims to be a sci-fi fan run contrary to her interviews when she first got the part wherein she clearly stated that she thought trekkies were geeks who needed to get out of their mother's basements. She single handedly ruined the entire franchise.

    October 7, 2011 at 11:45 am |
    • EL

      Loved Janeway. Don't be hating. Loved Voyager! Loved DS9! Hell, that's what it means to be a Trekker. Each has a part of heart, and my memories. I.D.I.C. FOREVER!!!!

      October 7, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
    • Bones

      Then don't watch Voyager. Star Trek fans pick and choose which parts of canon they want to ignore, and they've done that for years. Voyager wasn't my favorite of the franchise, but I do LOVE Kate Mulgrew herself as a person. Don't be hating.

      October 7, 2011 at 12:47 pm |
    • Leo

      Shatner said Trekkies need to move out of their parent's basement. May Kate just repeated it.

      October 7, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • John R

      Television writing changes, but so do we. I couldn't stand the DS9/Voyager one-two punch, but I lightened-up, and actually became addicted to Voyager. Actually, that was just happening and then they brought Jeri Ryan on, sealing the deal. I also couldn't stand TNG at first...far too cold and utilitarian. By all means, have your favorites! I learned years ago, while taking a marketing course, that I was very 'single-minded' in what I liked, and learned to go more for variety. It may never change your mind (nor should it), but it can always help to give a series a chance, even if you didn't like the way a character talks or looks.

      Now if only I could get into DS9...

      October 7, 2011 at 2:17 pm |
    • TimmyDWSTV

      How can you say she was the worst casting decision?!?! They originally cast Genevieve Bujold! SHE WAS ASTROCIOUS. The series would never have made it without Kate

      October 8, 2011 at 7:32 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      Whether you want to accept it or not, Howie, she was the first female captain featured in her own series. Janeway was not the first female captain or even the first female admiral. VOYAGER happened. If you didn't like it, don't watch it, but it's still part of future history. Denying it won't help.

      You remind me of someone I once knew who didn't want to accept that Joan Collins had been Captain Kirk's love in ST:TOS The City on the Edge of Forever. Howie, is that you?

      October 11, 2011 at 9:57 am |
  62. slhrby

    I used to be a very big fan of SNG until my husband introduced me to Voyager. At first, I disliked it because of a female captain. But, I gave it a chance. I am now one of the biggest Voyager fans there are. I absolutely loved Janeway and grew to love most of the characters on the show. It was full of good stories and it also had this sadness about it. I was very sad to see it end. After Janeway, Picard was wonderful!

    October 7, 2011 at 11:25 am |
    • Ann

      "disliked it because of a female captain" - what are you, a Ferengi?

      October 7, 2011 at 3:03 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      SNG? Sorry, what? You're referring to TNG, correct?

      October 7, 2011 at 6:16 pm |
  63. Brian

    Forget Star Trek. I;m loving her on Warehouse 13.

    October 7, 2011 at 11:20 am |
    • Corgigrrl

      me too!

      October 7, 2011 at 11:11 pm |
  64. buttahman

    Picard, Kirk, Sisko, Janeway, Archer. Sisko seems the most authentically military and the one you wouldn't want to run afoul of.

    October 7, 2011 at 11:07 am |
    • Bones

      If you want authentic military-esque... watch Battlestar Gallactica. Star Trek has its own merits... but military bearing isn't its best one, in any series.

      October 7, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
  65. Big Daddy

    Picard, Kirk, Sisko, Janeway, Archer, in my book. Picard was more cerebral, perhaps to a fault at times, but as far as being an effective leader, by far the best. Kirk was more action-oriented and a better gambler, and probably a more inspiring figure, but Kirk also had the benefit of Spock, the most compelling character in all of ST, and the best crew of any of the shows. Sisko could have been better, but I think he was hampered by a relatively weak cast (when a tertiary character from one show is one of your leads, you know you're in trouble) and uneven scripting. An argument can be made that Janeway had an even weaker cast than Sisko (Neelix? Harry? Kes? Yeesh.), but Voyager, although intriguing as a concept, suffered from poor scripting throughout the series. Archer suffers in comparison because ENTERPRISE was an embarrassment of a show: poor concept and bad writing not to mention the fact that every other show seemed to contradict much of what had been established by the earlier (albeit set in the future) shows.

    October 7, 2011 at 10:37 am |
    • Chartreuxe

      Agreed. Spock, the most memorable character in the future universe.

      October 7, 2011 at 11:18 am |
      • ohsnap

        TOTALLY character compares to Mr. Spock.

        October 8, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
  66. jodipo

    Frankly, Sisko was the reason so many hated DS9. he was a terrible captain. for series I go DS9, TNG, Voyager, Original, Enterprise but for captains i go Picard, Janeway, Kirk, Sisko, and then that throw away from Enterprise. Man, enterprise was really really bad.

    October 7, 2011 at 10:30 am |
    • Melissa

      Thats my list too.

      October 7, 2011 at 10:38 am |
    • saopaco

      How was Sisko a bad captain? Did you watch the entire series, or just the first few episodes? I recommend watching the later series where Sisko is not only a captain but the Emissary.
      Sisko was a builder of people. He inspired those to follow him. He also was not afraid to get his hands dirty.

      October 7, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
      • Nadine

        Sisko is my least favorite Captain, but I still thought he was awesome! For me it's Picard, Janeway, Kirk, then Archer tied with Sisko.

        October 11, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
  67. Alpha Centuri

    Kate had an interesting character on Warehouse 13 too.

    As for Trek:
    Kirk was better than Picard, but it is really not fair to compare them. Good science fiction is a reflection of the times in which it was written. Kirk and crew were impacted by the '60's, Picard and crew were from the calmer '80's. Which you prefer relates strongly to when you grew up (if you did).
    Voyager was better than DS9. Enterprise got hard to follow with the massive story arcs.

    October 7, 2011 at 9:42 am |
    • Lubiana

      I actually prefered DS9. But I enjoyed all the Star Trek shows. I couldn't tell you who the best captain was. They were all great.

      October 7, 2011 at 10:03 am |
      • ItsMeee!

        Agreed, but I think Nana Visitor (Major Kira) brought so much to that show. I also loved how DS9 expanded the Klingons and Voyager shed more light on the Borg.

        October 7, 2011 at 10:41 am |
    • Mike in NYC

      My preference in order – TOS/Kirk, TNG/Picard, Enterprise/Archer, Tie – DS9&Voyager ... LOVED Seven of Nine didn't care too much for Janeway – Liked Sisko couldn't stand rest of the show!

      October 7, 2011 at 10:42 am |
  68. mattski

    "The past is the future, the future is the past, it all gives me a headache."

    October 7, 2011 at 9:24 am |
  69. Warren B. In C.B.

    Not only did you have Captain Janeway on Voyager you had Seven Of Nine plus a few more interesting ladies.

    First woman Captain as she said!


    October 7, 2011 at 5:27 am |
  70. Chaos

    "She also gave her theory as to why "Star Trek" has endured for 45 years: "It's captured the imagination of people who understand that all of science is a leap of faith."

    Um, no. Science is based on empirical evidence.

    October 7, 2011 at 12:31 am |
    • Jman

      Umm.. No...Science is not based on empirical evidence...think out of the box. Science that is already known can be improved based on empirical evidence...Science that has yet to be discovered is based on a leap of faith. From her stand point and going along with the Star Trek theme, undiscovered science IS a leap of faith because you really do not know what to expect.

      October 7, 2011 at 8:17 am |
      • xjdavid

        Well said, Jman.

        October 7, 2011 at 9:35 am |
      • Ogre


        October 7, 2011 at 10:22 am |
      • Zeke

        Faith is certainty based on insufficient evidence. That is the exact opposite of science. Chaos is right.

        The researcher who tries something on a hunch, or who imagines that something might be true, is not engaging in "faith."

        October 7, 2011 at 11:02 am |
      • Chartreuxe

        Methinks OGRE is jealous.

        October 7, 2011 at 11:20 am |
    • GavilanSalvaje

      Belief in the existence of Dark Matter requires a "leap of faith".

      Just like the gods that were created by people create to make sense of their worlds, Dark Matter was created by people to plug the holes in calculations and hypotheses they had created to make sense of their worlds.

      Dark Energy falls in the same category.

      October 7, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
    • ogre2

      Kate Milgrew reads Richard Feynman so I'm sure she knows what she's talking about. You people are confusing "faith" with "religious faith".

      October 8, 2011 at 11:47 am |
  71. Keith M.

    Sisko, all the way!

    October 6, 2011 at 11:34 pm |
  72. twistedpuppet

    Voyager is my favorite Star Trek series. I tried to like Deep Space 9 and I did like Next Generation and even episodes of the original(though I always preferred the movies). But Voyager is my favorite.

    October 6, 2011 at 10:34 pm |
  73. Natural

    Greatest captains? Voyager was a terrible series and a distant fourth to TOS, TNG and DS9. A big reason why those series were more fun to watch was because the roles of captain were generally well written and well acted. William Shatner, Patrick Stewart and Avery Brooks all had a screen presence that Kate Mulgrew couldn't match.

    October 6, 2011 at 9:47 pm |
    • elle

      Agreed. Kirk Picard janeway

      October 7, 2011 at 1:48 am |
    • Melissa

      I liked Voyager. Mind you, TNG is first. Btw, (Patrick Stewart is an incredibly funny and nice man, met him at Dragon Con). Voyager I'd place second.

      October 7, 2011 at 10:41 am |
  74. Jeff

    Kirk, Janeway, Picard, Sisko. I admit – I have not seen all of DS9, but recently I watched Voyager all at once and Janeway was very good.

    October 6, 2011 at 9:08 pm |
  75. Keith

    In my book – Janeway, Sisko, Archer, Picard, Kirk.

    October 6, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
    • mattski


      October 7, 2011 at 9:28 am |
      • Chartreuxe

        How sad for you.....only two episodes with your favourite captain. [/sarcasm]

        October 7, 2011 at 6:22 pm |
      • asgardshill


        October 9, 2011 at 9:43 pm |
    • Enlil

      I think I like Kirk the best, Janeway second. Picard drives me off the wall because he's uptight in just about every episode. I like Sisko, but he never seems to DO anything on DS9.

      October 7, 2011 at 9:39 am |
  76. Keh L'yn

    Sisko was ok – but the show, not so much. Did anyone watch Bakula playing whatever he was called?
    Yes, I would place Janeway and ST:Voyager #3 as well.

    October 6, 2011 at 7:34 pm |
  77. tenousei

    Janeway better than Sisko? You must be crazy.

    October 6, 2011 at 7:26 pm |