Hello again, fellow comic readers!
This week’s new comic Wednesday pick is Marvel Comics’ “Astonishing X-Men #50,” a book that promises to generate a bit of controversy.
Spoiler alert! If you don’t want to know the “big deal” about this book, stop reading now and skip to the lower part of the post to see the list of books coming out this week.
Marvel Comics’ mutant character Northstar has not often been a headliner. If all you know about the X-Men is what you've seen in movies starring Hugh Jackman, then you likely don’t know him at all.
That changes with this week's “Astonishing X-Men #50” when Northstar takes center stage and prepares to go from one of the first openly gay superheroes in comics to the first married gay hero at Marvel. That's if his paramour and manager Kyle says yes, of course.
Northstar has had a tumultuous history. He starred in “Alpha Flight,” a long-running and well-remembered series for Marvel in the 80s and 90s, but his star fell not long after he came out as a gay man.
At the time his coming out was a huge development, but since then it has been ignored, played up for positive effect or played almost for laughs, such as a brief period where Northstar was retroactively declared to be an actual fairy. (Seriously, this is a storyline in a comic book you can own.)
“Astonishing X-Men #50” is an easy jumping on point for new readers of the line and has the added bonus of featuring Northstar, an X-Men character that I personally think is great.
He promotes AIDS awareness and mental health, two issues dear to his heart thanks to obstacles faced by his adopted daughter and his sister, respectively.
Earlier this year Archie comics had a same-sex wedding in its books that got a lot of press, but this is the first time a superhero is tying the knot.
I asked Marjorie Liu, the writer of this issue, if the controversy surrounding the Archie marriage figured into the storyline of this book.
“This is a love story and not a political statement,” Liu said. “Gay marriage is legal in New York state, and some of the X-Men who live there just happen to be gay. If they want to get married – well, why not? Not everyone will agree or be happy about it (in our book, and in real life), but that doesn't mean we shouldn't tackle those stories with passion and empathy for both sides.”
Conor Kilpatrick of iFanboy.com believes the issue is a perfect fit for Marvel: “The X-Men have been, from the beginning, an allegory for civil rights, so it makes sense that in a time when gay rights is such a front-burner issue in American society that Marvel Comics would face it head-on with their X-Men characters.”
Marvel Comics first rose to prominence and popularity in the 1960s by more accurately and relevantly reflecting the issues of the day in its stories compared to its competition, DC Comics, so it's no surprise that in 2012 Marvel is taking on the issue of gay marriage.
Axel Alonso, Editor in Chief of Marvel Comics, agrees that this is a natural story for Marvel to tell.
“Marvel Comics are best when they respond to developments in the real world,” he said. “When gay marriage became legal in New York state, it raised a question: Since most of our heroes reside in that state, how would Northstar, the first openly gay character in comics, respond to this development? Would it change his long-term relationship with his partner, Kyle?”
Of course, this weekend at the KAPOW! comic book convention in England, DC Comics co-publisher Dan Didio announced that it would reveal a long-time character to be gay.
Daniel Dean, of Titan Games and Comics in Smyrna, Georgia, says comic readers should think twice before they get furious about the storyline in this book.
“Obviously the big hook is Northstar's potential status as Marvel's first married gay superhero. But for me this is just a major event in the story of a character I think is pretty neat,” Dean said.
It was about time Marvel revisited the issue of Northstar’s sexuality. The issue in which he came out was a big deal but the subject was pretty well glossed over immediately thereafter. For a long while it was as if nothing had happened.
"You had camps of fans that were pretty ticked about both; that is, there were people upset that Marvel had a gay mutant, but there were a ton of people who were more upset that apart from a big pronouncement he wasn't allowed to be gay in the comics,” Dean said.
Despite any disagreement in the X-Men fandom, “the fact that Marvel is making this happen now matters, and I think we all like to read stories which matter whether we agree with them or not,” he said.
There was a time in comics where some horrible disaster that threatened lives was preferable to a “gay” subplot. Now most comic fans can name at least a good half dozen or more gay characters without even thinking about it. More importantly, these characters usually have compelling stories and reasons to exist apart from being "the gay one," the same stigma that followed the token black member of many comics in the 40s, 50s, and 60s.
Comic fans have seen this kind of relationship blossom before, in Marvel's Wiccan and Hulkling, for example. This, however, represents a whole new line in the sand for Marvel, and it's an accomplishment unto itself. It's indicative of a completely different way of thinking. That's plenty controversial to some people, but perfectly in line with the message of books like the X-Men.
I hope things work out for the character, but, this being comics, few things work out like the heroes hope in the long run. Either way, I'll be reading.
So, until next week, go forth and read, my people. And the reading will be good!
Is there a comic out there that you really love? Let us know in the comments. We’re always looking for tips on good comics!
Here are some of the comics scheduled to hit the shelves on May 23, 2012. Your local retailer will probably have these and others, so make sure to check with them for more details.
Amazing Spider-Man #686 (Gabriele Dell'Otto Variant Cover), AR
Amazing Spider-Man #686 (Stefano Caselli Regular Cover), $3.99
Amazing Spider-Man Volume 1 Behind The Mask SC (Young Readers Novel), $6.99
Astonishing X-Men #50 (Dustin Weaver Regular Cover), $3.99
Astonishing X-Men #50 (John Cassaday Sketch Variant Cover), AR
Astonishing X-Men #50 (John Cassaday Variant Cover), AR
Astonishing X-Men Wedding Invitation Postcard (Promotional Item), AR
Avengers The Many Faces Of Henry Pym TP, $19.99
Captain America #12, $3.99
Captain America And Hawkeye #631, $2.99
Daken Dark Wolverine No More Heroes HC (Premiere Edition), $19.99
Deadpool #55, $2.99
Deadpool MAX Involuntary Armageddon TP, $19.99
Dorothy And The Wizard In Oz #7 (Of 8), $3.99
Fantastic Four #606, $2.99
Hulk #52, $2.99
Hulk Smash Avengers #4 (Of 5), $2.99
Hulk Smash Avengers Collectible Postcard #4 (Promotional Item), AR
Journey Into Mystery #638, $2.99
Marvel Masterworks Atlas Era Journey Into Mystery Volume 4 HC, $64.99
Marvel Masterworks Atlas Era Journey Into Mystery Volume 4 HC (Direct Market Variant Edition Volume 180), $64.99
Marvel Masterworks The Amazing Spider-Man Volume 7 TP, $24.99
Marvel Masterworks The Amazing Spider-Man Volume 7 TP (Direct Market Variant Edition Volume 44), $24.99
Marvel Universe Spider-Man Amazing Fantasy Digest TP, $9.99
Marvel Universe Ultimate Spider-Man #2, $2.99
Marvel Zombies Destroy #2 (Of 5), $3.99
Mighty Thor #14, $3.99
Mighty Thor By Matt Fraction Volume 1 TP, $19.99
Mighty Thor By Matt Fraction Volume 2 HC (Premiere Edition), $24.99
Secret Avengers #27, $3.99
Strikeforce Morituri Volume 3 TP, $34.99
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man Death Of Spider-Man Fallout TP, $19.99
Ultimate Comics X-Men #12, $3.99
Uncanny X-Force Otherworld HC (Premiere Edition), $24.99
Uncanny X-Force Volume 3 The Dark Angel Saga Book 1 TP, $19.99
Venom Circle Of Four HC (Premiere Edition), $29.99
Wolverine And The X-Men #9 (Chris Bachalo 2nd Printing Variant Cover), $3.99
Amazing Spider-Man #686
Astonishing X-Men #50
Captain America #12
Captain America And Bucky #631
Dorothy And The Wizard Of Oz #7
Fantastic Four #606
Hulk Smash Avengers #4
Marvel Zombies Destroy #2
Mighty Thor #14
Secret Avengers #27
Absolute Batman Dark Victory, $99.99
All-Star Western #9 (Night Of The Owls), $3.99
Aquaman #9 (Ivan Reis & Joe Prado Black & White Variant Cover), AR
Aquaman #9 (Ivan Reis & Joe Prado Regular Cover), $2.99
Batman Incorporated #1 (Chris Burnham Black & White Variant Cover), AR
Batman Incorporated #1 (Chris Burnham Regular Cover), $2.99
Batman Incorporated #1 (Combo Pack Edition), $3.99
Batman Incorporated #1 (Frank Quitely Variant Cover), AR
Batman Knightfall Volume 2 Knightquest TP (New Edition), $29.99
Batman The Dark Knight #9 (Night Of The Owls)(David Finch & Richard Friend Regular Cover), $2.99
Batman The Dark Knight #9 (Night Of The Owls)(David Finch & Richard Friend Variant Cover), AR
Dominique Laveau Voodoo Child #3, $2.99
Fables #117, $2.99
Flash #9 (Francis Manapul Black & White Variant Cover), AR
Flash #9 (Francis Manapul Regular Cover), $2.99
Flash #9 (Tony S. Daniel Variant Cover), AR
Fury Of Firestorm The Nuclear Men #9, $2.99
Green Lantern New Guardians #9 (Tyler Kirkham & Batt Black & White Variant Cover), AR
Green Lantern New Guardians #9 (Tyler Kirkham & Batt Regular Cover), $2.99
I Vampire #9, $2.99
Justice League Dark #9, $2.99
MAD Archives Volume 3 HC, $59.99
MAD Vinyl Spy Vs Spy 2-Pack, $49.99
Savage Hawkman #9, $2.99
Showcase Presents Sea Devils Volume 1 TP, $19.99
Stormwatch Volume 1 The Dark Side TP, $14.99
Superman #9 (Ivan Reis & Oclair Albert Regular Cover), $2.99
Superman #9 (Ivan Reis Black & White Variant Cover), AR
Teen Titans #9 (Brett Booth & Norm Rapmund Black & White Variant Cover)(The Culling), AR
Teen Titans #9 (Brett Booth & Norm Rapmund Regular Cover)(The Culling), $2.99
Unwritten #37, $2.99
Voodoo #9, $2.99
All Star Western #9
Batman Incorporated #1
Batman: The Dark Knight #9
Dominique Laveau: Voodoo Child #3
Green Lantern: New Guardians #9
I, Vampire #9
Justice League Dark #9
Teen Titans #9
The Fury of Firestorm: The Nuclear Men #9
The Savage Hawkman #9
The Unwritten #37
Superman Beyond #3
DC Comics Digital Sneak Peeks 5/23/12 #1
Cobra #13 (Cover A Antonio Fuso), $3.99
Cobra #13 (Cover B Antonio Fuso), $3.99
Cobra #13 (David Williams Black & White Variant Cover), AR
Cobra #13 (David Williams Variant Cover), AR
Comic Book History Of Comics TP, $21.99
G.I. JOE A Real American Hero Volume 4 TP, $19.99
Godzilla #1 (Art Adams Gatefold Variant Cover), AR
Godzilla #1 (Cover A Art Adams), $3.99
Godzilla #1 (Cover B Tony Harris), $3.99
Godzilla #1 (Ryan Kelly Movie Tribute Variant Cover), AR
Hero Comics 2012 (Cover A J. Scott Campbell), $3.99
Joe Hill's The Cape HC, $24.99
Magic The Gathering #4 (Of 4)(Karl Kopinski Regular Cover), $3.99
Magic The Gathering #4 (Of 4)(Tyler Walpole Variant Cover), AR
Smoke And Mirrors #3 (Of 5)(Cover A Ryan Browne), $3.99
Smoke And Mirrors #3 (Of 5)(Cover B Francesco Francavilla), $3.99
Smoke And Mirrors #3 (Of 5)(Ryan Browne Sketch Variant Cover), AR
Transformers More Than Meets The Eye #5 (Cover A Alex Milne), $3.99
Transformers More Than Meets The Eye #5 (Cover B Nick Roche), $3.99
Transformers More Than Meets The Eye #5 (Marcelo Matere Variant Cover), AR
True Blood #1 (Cover A Tim Bradstreet), $3.99
True Blood #1 (Cover B Photo), $3.99
True Blood #1 (Tim Bradstreet Sketch Variant Cover), AR
27 Volume 2 Second Set TP, $12.99
Artifacts Origins First Born TP, $19.99
Chew #26, $2.99
Elephantmen #39, $3.99
Foot Soldiers Volume 1 TP, $19.99
Haunt Volume 3 TP, $14.99
Near Death #8, $2.99
Netherworld TP, $19.99
No Place Like Home #4, $2.99
Prophet #25, $2.99
Rebel Blood #3 (Of 4), $3.50
Witchblade #156 (Cover A John Tyler Christopher), $2.99
Witchblade #156 (Cover B Diego Bernard & Fred Benes), $2.99
Xenoholics Volume 1 TP, $14.99
Youngblood #71 (Cover A Rob Liefeld), $2.99
Youngblood #71 (Cover B Ryan Ottley), $2.99
Youngblood #71 (Cover C Chris Giarusso), AR
27 (Twenty Seven) Vol.2 Collected Edition
Artifacts Origins First Born Collected Edition
Foot Soldiers Vol.1 Collected Edition
Haunt Vol. 3 Collected Edition
Near Death #8
Netherworld Collected Edition
No Place Like Home #4
Rebel Blood #3 (Of 4)
Xenoholics Vol.1 Collected Edition
Adventures Into The Unknown Archives Volume 1 HC, $49.99
Buffy The Vampire Slayer Season 8 Volume 1 The Long Way Home HC, $29.99
Dark Horse Presents #12 (Dean Motter Variant Cover), AR
Dark Horse Presents #12 (Sam Kieth Regular Cover), $7.99
Doctor Solar Man Of The Atom Volume 2 Revelation Solar Rise TP, $15.99
Guild Fawkes #1 (One Shot)(Emma Rios Variant Cover), AR
Guild Fawkes #1 (One Shot)(Paul Duffield Regular Cover), $3.50
Incredible Adventures Of Dog Mendonça And Pizza Boy TP, $12.99
Mind MGNT #1 (Gilbert Hernandez Variant Cover), AR
Mind MGNT #1 (Matt Kindt Regular Cover), $3.99
Orchid #7, $3.50
Ragemoor #3, $3.50
Resident Alien #1, $3.50
Space Family Robinson Archives Volume 4 HC, $49.99
Star Wars Darth Vader And The Ghost Prison #1 (Of 5)(Dave Wilkins Regular Cover), $3.50
Star Wars Darth Vader And The Ghost Prison #1 (Of 5)(Tsuneo Sanda Variant Cover), AR
Green Hornet #25 (Brian Denham Regular Cover), $3.99
Green Hornet #25 (Jonathan Lau Regular Cover), $3.99
Green Hornet #25 (Phil Hester Regular Cover), $3.99
Kevin Smith's The Bionic Man #9 (Alex Ross Regular Cover), $3.99
Kevin Smith's The Bionic Man #9 (Alex Ross Virgin Variant Cover), AR
Kevin Smith's The Bionic Man #9 (Jonathan Lau Variant Cover), AR
Lord Of The Jungle Annual #1, $4.99
Queen Sonja Volume 3 Coming Of Age TP, $19.99
Robert Jordan's The Wheel Of Time The Eye Of The World #25, $3.99
Vampirella #17 (Ale Garza Regular Cover), $3.99
Vampirella #17 (Fabiano Neves Black & White Variant Cover), AR
Vampirella #17 (Fabiano Neves Regular Cover), $3.99
Vampirella #17 (Lucio Parillo Regular Cover), $3.99
Vampirella #17 (Paul Renaud Blood Red Variant Cover), AR
Vampirella #17 (Paul Renaud Regular Cover), $3.99
Warlord Of Mars Dejah Thoris #12 (Fabiano Neves Black & White Variant Cover), AR
Warlord Of Mars Dejah Thoris #12 (Fabiano Neves Regular Cover), $3.99
Warlord Of Mars Dejah Thoris #12 (Paul Renaud Red Variant Cover), AR
Warlord Of Mars Dejah Thoris #12 (Paul Renaud Regular Cover), $3.99
Warlord Of Mars Dejah Thoris #12 (Stephen Segovia Regular Cover), $3.99
Zorro Rides Again Volume 1 Masked Avenger TP, $19.99
Bionic Man #9
Green Hornet #25
Lord Of The Jungle Annual #1
Robert Jordan’s Wheel Of Time #25
Warlord Of Mars: Dejah Thoris #12
Clive Barker's Hellraiser #14 (Cover A Tim Bradstreet), $3.99
Clive Barker's Hellraiser #14 (Cover B Nick Percival), $3.99
Clive Barker's Hellraiser #14 (Cover C Tim Bradstreet), AR
Elric The Balance Lost #10 (Cover A Francesco Mattina), $3.99
Elric The Balance Lost #10 (Cover B Dan Panosian), $3.99
Elric The Balance Lost #10 (Cover C Francesco Mattina), AR
Irredeemable #37 (Cover A Kalman Andrasofszky), $3.99
Irredeemable #37 (Cover B Matteo Scalera), $3.99
Rich Johnston's Captain American Idol #1 (Josh Covey 2nd Printing Variant Cover), $3.99
Rich Johnston's ScienTHORlogy #1 (Josh Covey 2nd Printing Variant Cover), $3.99
Rich Johnston's The Avengefuls #1 (Josh Covey 2nd Printing Variant Cover)(not verified by Diamond), $3.99
Archie #633, $2.99
Best Of Sonic The Hedgehog HC, $24.99
Jugheads Double Digest #181, $3.99
Stan Lee's Mighty 7 #2 (Alex Saviuk Regular Cover), $2.99
Stan Lee's Mighty 7 #2 (Alex Saviuk Variant Cover), $2.99
Jughead Double Digest #181
Stan Lee’s Mighty 7 #2
World of Archie: Game On!
Holliday GN, $19.99
AR = ask your retailer for the price
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Digital List is via ComiXology
the LMNOPs sure want to make a big Stink, and make everybody beleive that eveyone else is gay
I guess things didn't work out between him and the Pantheans' Hector.
So you give a spoiler warning AFTER the picture which pretty much gives away the whole thing? Well done, CNN, well done.
tHIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN POISONING OUR YOUTH, NOW I REALLY HATE THESE POS
People like you are the ones poisoning our youth.
shut your mouth
Patrick – exactly. It's amazing when some people think bigotry is somehow more moral than marrying someone you love.
poisoning? gosh a bit of hyperbole, no? afraid that your kids won't share your bigotry? awwwww......little fella, put on your big boy pants and join us in the the hear and now.
F u Losers, bunch of faaaaaaaaaag lovers caving in to the media, its one thing to beat the adult masses continuously with this trash now our youth gets their turn and how can u Losers call this bigotry when this is not normal and not accepted by the masses as a group at all. The vote is 69% to the weak 31% that caves in, U all are pathetic and WEAK!!!!
Well, Wild Texas Patriot, you sure present a solid argument. Except that it is for a frontal lobotomy.
No we will not join your here and now thanks Sam......we will enjoy our here and now, and that will be without comic books that are showing a lifestyle that we do not agree with – the gay people themselves are not poison.....God loves them....but the message is poison. How would you like us christians to be able to hand out comics with Jesus to every kid in America, with only our biblical stand on this issue included...?
Soooooo....the gay "lifestlye?" Is that the one where they are fighting in court for (1) marriage – so that they can live in legally recognized, monogamous relaitonships (2) Family – so they can raise their children (biological and adopted) as a couple (3) Honor – so they can serve their country in the military.
Let's compare that to what the religious right is in the courts fighting for (1) control of women's reproductive rights (2) keeping their ministers out of jail for illicit se x ual conduct (3) protecting their assets from lawsuits and taxes.
They gay "lifestyle" seems a lot more ethical and moral to me.
Hey Dorthy....were those court cases "gay priests".abusing children by the way...trust me – you don't want to open that can of worms.
I don't recall these being "handed out", North Guy. In any case, you have a right to do so. And, others have a right to toss them in the recycling bin
I want these so called Christians to keep opening their mouth and spewing their hate ... It's great! My friends who are part of the G.L.O (gay liberation organization) tell me that it helps propel the gay agenda... Soon every man will become gay and it will be missioned accomplished! LOL
Sadly, some Christianazi's probably believe this!
Gee, Wild Texas Patriot, you sure seem eager to hate. Good for you.
So far you are in the lead Sam.....you get the cup, trophy and belt buckle
wow, really? such a small population pr people make such a big noise
I know, the few uneducated, intolerant, ho mo ph ob ic, clueless, bigots just won't shut up.
Isn't that what Hitler said about the Jews? Just saying ....
So many scared commenters on here. Oh the duality you must be suffering that causes you to think these people you consider beneath yourselves might actually overthrow your tidy (!?) little worlds.
Wow, Wolverine was there too?
I'm shocked!!!! I've never heard of a superhero getting married.
IF MR. OBAMA CONTINUES TO PROMOTE THEIR POLITICAL STUPID GAY RELATIONS, UNITED STATES OF BATTLESHIP will end in sin and will be judged as Sodom and Gomorrah ... 2017!
Keep your iron age comic book out of our government.
Obama has a BIG problem.....he constantly forgets that his job is to rule over ALL. Not just the people groups he feels sorry for....when you accept a position to rule over a nation – that includes all of the people – whether you agree with their views or not. He can say the word christian all he wants – but this has in every way become a joke. He has no experience running anything.....and has an agenda. One scarey dude
sky daddy and his sheeple will start the throw down? That's not very baaah-christianly. Baaaah.
Ya.....killing the unborn is not very nice either
Silly bigot you don't even know what the bible says...
“This is the sin of Sodom; she and her suburbs had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not help or encourage the poor and needy. They were arrogant and this was abominable in God’s eyes.”
God destroyed Sodom because Lot could not find 10 "righteous" people in the city. Had there been just 10 righteous, Sodom would have been spared. So by precedence, As long as there are some "righteous" people God will not destroy us. If your going to fearmonger atleast get it right, maybe actually read the Bible.
Mr King, my advice to you is to get out your sneakers and purple tablecloth... your mother ship is nigh.
Yeah make sure you don't post the whole Sodom and Gomorrah story, like the part where Lot, the only righteous man to be found, the only one worth saving, was actually such a degenerate that he offers both his young virgin daughters to be r@ped by a r@pe gang of men. If that happened today, he'd be locked up, registered as a $ex offender, they'd be removed from his home for life...which probably would have been a good idea SEEING AS HOW HE GOT BOTH HIS YOUNG DAUGHTERS PREGNANT.
THAT'S THE RIGHTEOUS MAN WORTH SAVING?
YOU PEOPLE ARE SO FAACKING SICK. YOU USE THIS BOOK AS A MORAL GUIDE??? HOW FRIGHTENING. GEEZ.
USA BELEIVE IN GOD AND JESUS NOT IN GAY!!!!
Sjtill begging for salvation? Free people do not need it. Slaves do
God and Jesus (and a heck of a lot of other Americans) believe more that one should use correct spelling and proper grammar. Jesus would be very disappointed in you, James King. Very disappointed, indeed.
MARVEL COMPANY SINCE WHEN ARE GAY AND ITS FOUNDERS. IS A GREAT SHAME ON PROMOTING THE GAY COMICS. LIE THAT SEEMS NOT FEAR GOD OUR CREATOR, GOD CREATED MAN AND WOMAN NOT GAY. THIS IS MY COMPANY FORECAST AND ALL RELATED MARVEL fail in ECONOMICS AND IRAN FOR BANKRUPTCY IN THE NEXT 24 MONTHS. AND IF THE UNITED STATES CONTINUES TO THIS PROPAGANDA, 2017 FOR LONGER BE A SUPER POWER.
Man created god, man wrote the bible. Typing in caps just makes you look like an imbecile, not to mention the words themselves
This comment is where Sam really shows his stupidity and lack of knowledge....having fun with inventions of his own mind, but trying to make it sound real. You can disagree with Christianity Sam and choose to not participate.....but dude we have legitimate roots – even National Geographic think so!!
Sublime: Are you claiming that man did not write the bible?
Your brain cannot handle the answer to that one Sam.....best left with the adults
Anna: Oh, aren't you the clever one
sublime: your roots are stolen from earlier belief systems
Your first clue starts with the letter A.....
Anna: Answer the question, if you can.
pretty much what i thought, anna. starts with "c" and rhymes with the term for the smallest of the litter
you have just revealed all we need to know about you Sam.....no other words necessary...your hate, anger and bitterness towards those of faith are all over many pages now......for all to see....
You need a bar of soap in your mouth boy
North Guy: Boy, go home and get your shinebox.
Anna: I have lots of friends who are pretty committed Christians. I got no problem with them. I do have a problem with mouthy gashes (like you and North Guy) who want others to have unequal rights.
Also, Anna, perhaps you should pull that jesus marital aid out of your snapper
Sam – you are a so much fun!!!! Thanks
James King if America falls/fails it is because a house divided can't not stand...
I can't believe how many poor representations of so-called Christians are walking around praising the Lord.
What would Jesus do?
USA BELEIVE IN GOD AND JESUS NOT IN GAY!!!!
MARVEL COMPANY SINCE WHEN ARE GAY AND ITS FOUNDERS. IS A GREAT SHAME ON PROMOTING THE GAY COMICS. LIE THAT SEEMS NOT FEAR GOD OUR CREATOR, GOD CREATED MAN AND WOMAN NOT GAY. THIS IS MY COMPANY FORECAST AND ALL RELATED MARVEL fail in ECONOMICS AND IRAN FOR BANKRUPTCY IN THE NEXT 24 MONTHS. AND IF THE UNITED STATES CONTINUES TO THIS PROPAGANDA, 2017 FOR LONGER BE A SUPER POWER.
Fearing god? Get off your knees and grow a pair
Haven't you heard, James King? God hates the dangling participle. If you use one more ... just ONE more ... you'll be going straight to H E L L where you will forever sit in 7th grade English class, never to pass and NEVER to graduate! Oh, the horror of it!!!!
James must be asian.
I don't understand why s3xu@l preferences should even be discussed in a comic book. I wasn't aware there was even a gay superhero. Why does s3xu@l preferences need to be represented anywhere? It should be kept in private. I don't care if you say in the closet, or what you call it. I don't go around saying "I love to sleep with hot women!". My personal business is mine and it should be both ways. What if I start a movement and declare myself a solo-s3xu@l? I think I should be able to marry myself. Put that in a comic! There should be a superhero who can't stop pounding one out! Then when your son asks you, "Daddy, what does solo-s3xu@l mean?" you can tell him to wait until he is 14 and then he will understand.
Preferences in comic books are not new. Did Archie not have a thing for Betty and Veronica?
So, now kids are a target for the gay agenda cause adults won't fall for the "alternate" lifestyle.
Oooh....the "agenda"....these f nuts can't come up with something new?
Sam you are sooo behind on the gay and lesbian polictical agenda....do you live in the forest
gay superheros are getting hitched... how [gay] sweet.....lol....
:] This is pretty cool. Everyone deserves to be happy! or miserable..depending how you look at marriage but yay anyway! haha
i agree. live and let live
I thought all super hero's were gay?
yeah I always thought batman and robin had something going on in their "cave".
gay people have more money than straight people
so if youre smart youre gonna not exclude gay dollars
we got a TON more than straights do because we are NOT burded with ACCIDENTAL children
Far out. Please take your money and move to Pervertistan. Today.
I would just love to see this unfathomable quote on the front page of every paper in America.....you are like the anti-syrum for your cause....working against your own group. If a comment like this could be published – it would be like Christmas for the conservative base. Keep Going Oh Please we like you
Oh wait... I misunderstood... I always thought Northstar was gay because he came from Canada... ;)
Has anyone heard of the gay Avenger, The Anal Avenger? How about his arch-nemesis, The Rectal Violator and his Secret Weapon, an 8-foot Thermometer?
Hee haw, hee haw.... Are you like 12 years old??
I just find it funny. This is an X-men comic, they are basically the comic world's allegory of people constantly discrimated on/oppressed/hated for being what they are. If anything this story is just natural for such a comic. Lets not forget this comic has been about diversity. They have Blacks, asians, catholics, muslims. Nearly every last major minority group.
Congrats to the writers and execs at Marvel for this brave and decent storyline. i'm still furios and saddened by what they did to Peter Parker and this doesn't begin to make up for it in my book, but this is a very good thing they're doing.
Ho-mo-s-exuality is and abnormality of what is natural. It doesn't mater how many "experts now days publish their "findings"....... its obvious they are slanted because of pressure to be "politically correct".
Even nature itself tells you that there is a certain order of things that make life on this earth as we know it. You mess with it, the consequences are far reaching!.
Even in animal species when some are not normal, the rest of the group rejects them, becaue it is in their nature to do so to preserve the natural order of things.
But why does man fight to to be accepted in his lewd nature? Because he loves his ways and will fight tooth and nail to keep himself gratified.....
We are no animals, we are human beings. We were created in the image of God, and He is the one who set the laws in nature, and has made His standard known of what is right and what is wrong to all mankind, by imprinting it on our consciences. Every person REALLY KNOWS, but those who choose to silence the voices of their consciences, at one point they pretended not to know, ignoring the voices of their consciences, till God turned them over to reprobate minds an they became numb to the truth, believing a lie.
To those who disagree with things said here... no matter what your reason is, the truth will never change, friend, we can't do away with it.... we can deny it, fume about it, revolt against it, hate those who uphold it and face us with it, but in the end the Truth will still stand, and every man's opinion will prove to be nothing.
There is no Real peace to those who fight against it. Because you're fighting against God! And He is the One to whom we all will give account of our lives!
Tell us, PRISM, why is this issue so far up rectal canal?
Also, PRISM, your god is an impotent myth...the wizard of oz....don't look behind the curtain. PRISM.....get back on your knees
Well, you just keep standing on your hope that God doesn't exist then and we will see what happens to you in the afterlife.
realistic: seems that there is lots of conjecture on your part. first of all, the existence of an afterlife. secondly, that yours is the correct god.
realistic: also, pascal's wager is lame.
I agree with you Prism that there is a "truth" out there...but I find it funny that you seem to be so confident that YOUR truth is the 'ultimate' truth. What makes you know better than anyone else? Because a book tells you so? If I write a book that tells a different truth do I have equal rights to say it's true? You have no actual evidence to back up your "truth", justwhat you state your "conscience" tells you...that's really not all that convincing.
PRISM is just another bigot using (his version of) god to justify his bigotry. Nothing new here.
You show your disdain for a work of fiction by quoting from a different work of fiction? How very duplicitous, bipolar and meaningless. Let's see: Sky Daddy or Northstar? Decisions, decisions.
There is no GOD!
Great word Prism.......Sam is on many of these pages – spewing hate and bitterness over christians.....the truth is very hard for some. The disagreement is not personal – it is a principle of the universe and nature we are debating....created by God. It is like walking up to the Mona Lisa and saying – I think she should be blonde.....God does not have to change His original purpose for humans – because we have a different idea!! God loves everyone....but He is God
Man created god, sublime.
also, sublime, i got no problem with christians. i do have a problem with bigots. it is not my fault that in some cases they are synonymous. so, basically, insert your persecution complex deep up your rectal cavity
Hey everyone Sam likes some christians...he even knows some!! You are lying sorry buddy
Where do you get your facts...ridiculous...go to college, see the world, get out of your trailer and meet people outside of your church picnic and EVOLVE... Your GOD does not hate anyone... Christianazi's words are hateful and cause people pain...you are a bad person and YOU will be judged
Is his super hero name Flutterby?
I think you really meant "fluffer". How long have you been in the business, my friend?
Ummm, all these hateful h o m o p h o b i c comments are exactly the reason we need positive gay role models, whether they be real or imagined. Otherwise children will think it's normal to make fun or gay people, or to promote the idea they are somehow sick, perverted or inferior to straight people. Good for Marvel. I will purchase this and other pro-gay comics for my children.
Stacy – Well said!
That's gay, Yo.
So... this superhero needs tax breaks also? He needs marriage to ward off others from stealing his man?
I don't get it. Marvel wants to be more culturally relevant then why don't we have "the Economy Avenger" or something. Teach kids about how valuable it is not to mess up a country's economy. He could fight wallstreet corruption at night and have some random day job or goes to college or supports a family along with a hard working partner and has kids. I am not against gay marriage, I just think the more that gay marriage is made an issue the more opposition it is going to get. I am a Democrat, I have always been a Democrat but, the fact that gay marriage and constantly pressing gay marriage into society will not make it easier for marriage equality to happen and the biggest focus in this country should be on the economy, and getting America back into the right direction. I believe that we should be accepting to gay people and allow them to marry but, I am incredibly tired of hearing about it.
Couldn't you have said the exact, word for word, same thing about civil rights legislation in 1964 when we were in the middle of a cold war and had vietnam going on? There will ALWAYS be things that people say are "more pressing" but does that mean we should ignore civil rights?
Frankly, if gays didn't push the whole 'gay marriage' issue, they wouldn't see any progress at all. When exactly would be a 'good time' for them to bring it up? When there are no problems in the US, at all? That's never going to happen, there's never a convinent time to bring it up, people will always say "we should be worried about other things". So at least by bringing it up, they keep the issue relevant, rather than risk losing any progress they've already made.
Nothing good has ever come from a chunk of the population staying silent about discrimination.
Anne – The funniest thing about all the equal rights/gay rights/gay marriage debate and media exposure is that this wasn't as big of an issue for the GLBT community UNTIL the religious right started lobbying to change state and federal law to prevent what they think of as an abomination. It is not just the 'gays' that are pushing their agenda but also the right wingers that are pushing their anti-gay agenda. Both sides are causing the media frenzy.
Everyone – In any case, I don't understand how religion plays into this...separation of state, etc. Equal rights means just that: everyone should have equal rights as long as they don't infringe on others' liberties (and just b/c some people don't 'like' what others are doing in their personal lives, its not infringing on their liberties). I hardly think that two consenting adults (GLBT) wanting the same rights and protections as two other consenting adults (non-GLBT) should be an issue in today's society.
Okay...first Obama...now this..really? who needs more votes, our president or marvel? I choose neither...you can't be a superhero AND be gay...that's just not right...end of story. Men and women don't get married as much anymore as they used to, so if we go ahead and say gay is "okay" then we're well on our way to extinction....
this superhero gay marriage will actually be in marvel's 'politcally correct' series – starring obama
hahaha dude that's the truth!
only problem with obama's character is that there already is a superhero that goes by 'twoface'
Kesha gurrl yoo stoopid. You no sistah.
Really, Kesha? Where did you get your rules on what a superhero can be?
You maybe on to something; let the extinction begin with you.
Kesha you win the prize...I can't believe that there are so many intellectually challenged people that read CNN...
Think about it – only a per verted mind adds a $ exual bent to a CARTOON..... It's a CARTOON CHARACTER.
you've obviously never seen the buns on iron man
Haha – buns of steel? No wait – that's Superman.
haha ... and he didn't actaully come from krypton, but uranus
What about wiccan and hulkling?
Thank God, I'm glad comics still have no basis in reality. What's next, a character being killed off, only to come back?
This is all just silly. SILLY.
i agree ... next you'll some comic coming out with some mutant gene that actually makes people gay – silly indeed
load of crap!!
Gurgi – Thank you for your thoughful response to Gay Hater. We need to be able to disagree without insulting one another.
Gurgi – H o m o s e x u a l i t y was removed as a disorder from the DSM because of studies (the first of which was in 1957) that showed that there was, "No scientific basis for inferring a predisposition to psychopathology or other maladjustment as intrinsic to h o m o s e x u a l i t y or b i s e x u a l i ty." Source – American Psychological Assocation.
Lobbying by gay groups did not cause the change. H o m o s e x u a l i t y was removed as a disorder from the DSM in 1973. There were precious few gay groups in existence in 1973, and they had little, if any, political influence.
This is why DC is better...Marvel just dropped the ball, or should I say balls...
i'm sure there will be 5% of the population there to pick them up
Abraham, batman and robin would agree...
I always thought it was gay whenever Spiderman shot his "web" all over Doctor Octopus!
Geez, anything for a buck. Come on, Marvel comics! How utterly silly....a man marrying another man, a woman marrying another woman. And so many make it like it's simply the "religious" people who are against this. Nope. Marrying the opposite gender has nothing to do with religion (although that's obviously been a large part of it for so many centuries). Opposite genders are different, in case you haven't noticed, and this is the only way the species can be propagated and whether a couple wants or doesn't want to have kids is irrelevant. And this has NOTHING to do with "equal rights"...how idiotic can you get.
And nature creates hermaphrodites and people with over 20 different conditions that give them the PHYSICAL characteristics of BOTH genders. Nature also creates many animal species that have a percentage of their population that is EXCLUSIVELY ho mo $e_xual and will never mate with the opposite gender in their lifetime. But nature also creates minds like yours that are so tiny, that even in the presence of that evidence, you can't possibly imagine that a percentage of humans would be wired to be attracted to the same gender only. How sad.
And all those "20 different conditions," are not "normal." Or they would not be labeled "conditions."
They may not be "normal" if you define "normal" as "not experienced by the majority". But if that's true, being blue-eyed or left-handed certainly isn't normal.
@Gurgi – What's sad is that you know you didn't choose your $e xu ali -ty, and couldn't have changed it if you wanted to, yet you imagine that gays somehow can.
Being "blue-eyed or left handed" are not labeled as "conditions." Therein lies the difference.
Exactly. The difference is a label.
And there was a time when being left handed was labeled as a condition and teachers and nuns were free to crack the knuckles of left handed students with rulers for being "de viant".
I really wouldn't see the value of getting into a conversation with Sarah Palin to convince her that she should make sure her baby knows that he's abnormal.
@Gurgi: Actually being left handed was considered a 'condition' for many centuries. Children who displayed a preference for their left hand were often beaten, and forced to use their right hand because of the many negative conotations for the left hand found in the Bible. Being left handed was considered to be cursed, unlucky, or as a sign of the influence of the Devil.
Being gay or lesbian is no more a condition than being straight is.
Jim – This has EVERYTHING to do with equal rights. H e t e r o s e x u a l s can marry the person they love, gays cannot. That is not equality.
When Jim tells you that you have the same right to marry the opposite gender that he does, ask him if you can marry his daughter.
Uhhhh. There are lots of situations where people can't marry the one they love. Get with it!
@calvin – We're talking about consenting unrelated adults, not in ce st or pa ra phi1ias which have been proven by modern psychology to be harmful.
Jim, that's crazy....we're propagating at a viral rate already. We need less children being born. If at least 10% of married couple are not procreating, that's a great thing.
With gay marriage, more children will be born. BOTH parents will want children, why would they get married in the first place? It makes no sense whatsoever for them to get married, they want the tax breaks for themselves and the split family tree they will create.
As long as it takes a government license, it has everything to do with equal rights
This has everything to do with equal protection under the law, jimbo
More proof that gays are trying to target children
Wrong. All you have to do if you want to see the percentage of gays who mo1est is go to a $ex offender registry like the one for the State of Texas that lists the age and gender of each mo1ester's victim(s). You can enter even a gay-friendly zip code and pull a random sample and you'll see that well over 90% are men mo1esting little girls ONLY. 2 to 3% are women molesters. 2 to 3% are men who molested both genders. 2 to 3% are men who molested males only.
Patrick – Well said!
Patrick... you are gay....dnt u?
@gayhater, it is kind of obvious. But he is a person, that deserves proper respect, and that is discussing his point of view in a non-hateful manner.
@Gurgi – I appreciate that and I'm sorry if I've been disrespectful to you at all. It's just an emotional topic when you've been through what I have.
He's not saying they are targeting children for that reason, but to twist the childrens minds and brainwash them as you say Christians do. Last time I checked a Comic Book was about cartoon characters. Cartoon characters people they are a$ exual.
you're so sad
How is this proof of that? Gosh, Pimpson, get a clue
oh how funny coming from a guy who calls himself Pimpson. You have children working the streets for you?
And you are showing us this because? We already know there are gays and Les, and they unite as a couple what's new?
I know Les. He's a nice guy, used to date my sister. Leave him out of all of this.
Rumor has it that next year's story line will feature Sasquatch finding mass acceptance in the "bear" community. Can't wait!
WOW! They're pushing it and rubbing it in our faces day in and day out! Such determination, you would think they are fighting for somethong right and noble! But it's not, and it'll never be accepted as normal, because it's NOT!
Actually, no one is rubbing it in your face... but I suspect that deep down inside, you wish some guy was.
"Pushing it in our faces"? You're a) Not required to read the comic book or read these articles, and b) fail to realize how being 'straight' is pushed in 'our faces' constantly.
If you see straight couples kissing in public constantly, if you see it on TV frequently, if you see straight couples getting married both finctionally and in public, then how are gay people doing the same thing "pushing it in your faces"? Are you that annoyed by people admitting gays actually exist?
Do you get this upset when you see a straight marriage on television? Isn't that 'pushing straightness'?
FedUp! – H o m o s e x u a l i t y is considered a normal part of human s e x u a l i t y by the following professional mental health associations: The American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy, the American Counseling Association, the Canadian Psychological Association, and the National Association of Social Workers.
Wow. But when we see a straight relationship in a magazine or on screen, that's not rubbing our faces in it, right? And it's actually not, because we have no problem with that. You're just ultra paranoid and ultra sensitive and probably quite ho-mo_pho bic.
The World Health Organization, the American Medical Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the American Counseling Association, and the American Academy of Pediatrics all say ho-mos_exuality is a normal unchangeable variant of human $e_xu-ality. Get over it.
The organizations you and Casey mention bowed to pressure to be "policitally correct." As the LGBT is a quite vocal (therefore powerful) minority. How can it be "normal" when it has not even been decided if it is a "choice" of lifestyle by the individual, or proven to be genetic? Logically, the only way it could be halfway considered to be normal would be if it is proven to be genetic. Also the small percentage of gays in the human population prove it is not "normal."
Yes those organizations bowed under the tremendous pressure in 1973, LOL!
Wrong. They removed it as a disorder because there was no proof it was a disorder. Ho mo_se-xuals, unlike others with mental disorders have no evidence of associated pathologies, boundary issues that pervade other areas of their lives or character disorders...and no identifiable cause.
That being said, of course when they removed it there were plenty in the APA that disagreed (for the same reason people used to think being left-handed was deviant – because it's different and experienced by a minority) and vowed to return with proof it was a disorder. They never found any.
There is a larger percentage of "lefties," in the world, than there are gay. What I said still stands.
There weren't in 1973, and they had just about no clout, politicial, social, or otherwise. There was no 'gay movement' back in the early 1970s, and academic literature seldom bows to political pressure in any case. Your point really doesn't stand, you'd LIKE to think "oh, they just bowed to pressure" because you don't want to recognize that it's actually possible for you to have a wrong position on a subject.
You sound a little upset...could it be that you're a closet gay?
Patrick, that last comment was meant for you.
I should add that while there is no "gay gene", there are genetic components to h-mos-xuality. That is to say, studies of identical twins show that if one twin is gay, the other is far more likely to be gay than with fraternal twins. If it was entirely genetic, that'd be 100%, but if there was no genetic aspect to s-xuality, then identical twins would match the ratio with fraternal twins.
What this means is that s-xual orientation is more complex than what could be accounted for with a single gene. Number of male older brothers also makes you far more likely to be gay, indicating some pre-natal enviornmental conditions also help establish s-xuality. There seem to be many factors which cause it, some different for others, but the one clear constant is that no one chooses their s-xuality.
The lefties are like 12%. You're saying if it's over a certain percent it's okay? Do you draw the line at 8? 10?
@Andrew, actually there were such groups even back in the 60s, mostly in California (it was called the state of "fruits and nuts" back then, especially by folks in the midwest). When they made the news, I remember it stirring my Dad up something awful. Though he had little tolerance for gay people or hippies. He didn't see a lot of difference between them.
@LJ, I don't think Patrick is in the closet. We are just having a discussion of opposing viewpoints. He is gay, and I'm not. But that doesn't mean we can't discuss our differences respectfully. I don't think he was sounding upset, but I could be wrong.
The groups existing doesn't mean they had any real power, you've honestly got very little to substantiate that they had ANY influence over the academic community. But for some reason you prefer to believe "gays got them to remove it as a disease because of political correctness" rather than the also possible "... there simply was no evidence to substantiate its classification as a disease/disorder".
The academic community is usually fairly good about not bowing to political or societal pressures, and you need some pretty strong arguments with some pretty strong displays of pressure applied to indicate that gays changed anything in the academic community because of 'political correctness'. That's a tall order for a conspiricy.
Sometimes I wonder if you people go breaking into gay couples' houses and then accuse them of "flaunting" their "lifestyle" in front of you. If you don't want to see a gay superhero, don't buy the book. Is that easy enough for you, bub?
FedUp!: Bigotry dies hard.
I hope Marvel gets the courage to bring Captain Felcher back to the comic book page.
Please have your authors do a fact check instead of becoming puppets for the PR departments of businesses (they already are for politicians). This is not the first gay marriage. Wildstorm had a civil union in the 90's by Midnighter and Apollo, both being two of the first gay characters in comics and being outed well before Marvel touched the issue. Wildstorm's creation was picked up by DC and reset in last year's 52. You can follow it in the Storm Watch comic (which this author mentions being sold this week, but the list is an obvious cut and paste from a shipping web site).
Editors, hold your writers accountable. this article was a waste of time.
Apparently this is the most important issue in America. Tax relief: no, affordable housing: no, stable employment: no, gay marriage:...wait a minute, you almost had me there.
So Americans can only focus on a single issue at a time? Back in 1964 I'm sure the country had *nothing* else to worry about other than civil rights, right? I mean it's not like we were in the middle of an incredibly tense cold war as well as having to deal with Vietnam, right?
Equal rights are important, and the country is capable about caring for more than one issue at a time.
The fact that you are only reading the articles about civil rights battles and not the articles about tax relief/unemployment/war/etc says a lot more about you than it does about which issues Americans find important.
This comic book is gay, just like the Phoenix Suns commercial
Will he change his superhero name to "Gayman?" His but will whistle when he flies. So, he won't be able to sneak up on the villians.
If i wanted to care about a gay superhero, i'd watch Torchwood. I totally gay heart you, Captain Jack!
I didn't like Torchwood because it was like they made everyone out to be bi, which just isn't true. I did love Captain Jack though.
SO MESS UP IN THE HEAD!!! NEXT IT GOING TO BE MAN AND ANIMAL...NO WONDER WE'RE NO LONGER THE STRONGEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!
SAO – It is scary how quickly you jump from a discussion about the loving relationship between two people of the same gender to your statement about bestiality. Do you think about having s e x with animals often?
exactly.....this world with no restraints is terrifying.....I would like to know who is behind this
Who? The world knows his name. He is that fallen yellow-haired angel whose name was Lucifer. It is what you don't see, the invisible spirits, that move mankind down the path of life until destiny is fulfilled. However, there is a happy ending to the story. Make that into a comic book Marvel Comics. The real superhero is the Lord Jesus.
Yeah, John, the superhero Jesus quashes his virgin boinking daddy's temper tantrum
We're no longer the strongest country in the world because teachers can't teach because administrators are too scared they'll get sued if they discipline students in any way because of our laws that guarantee every child an education, regardless of their propensity to disrupt the education of others.
Man and animal? You seriously don't know the difference between pa ra phi1ias and $e xu al ori ent@ations? Read a book.
SAO, You're right! And no matter how they dress it up it's still perversion and it'll never be normal!
@Fed Up! – Wrong. You're the perversion and will never be normal, unless you get treated for your ho mo pho bia, which they treat as a DISORDER nowadays.
--phobia is a word you created to label those who don't agree with you or fall in line with your version of life!
Patrick...you need serious help.
SAO, have you ever seen a marriage license? There are TWO lines for SIGNATURES. That alone guarantees two things: a person can only legally marry ONE person, and both people have to be HUMANS. You can do whatever you want in a marriage ceremony, until you fill out the marriage license, you are not married.
SAO: Man and animal? Gosh, you are either a troll, or a moron. Which is it, dimwit?
CNN – Thank you for having the courage to run stories about all types of people.
THIS IS SICK BEYOND BELIEF!!!!
Agreed...it it truly sick that CNN would put a "spoiler alert" *after* posting a headline and photo that completely spoil the story. Least-effective spoiler alert ever. But also, kudos to Marvel.
Yep! ! ! It's getting sicker every day.
And they say Christians are indoctrinating the children?
Just what are THEY doing?
dear cnn...enough already with the gay issue!
They have a whole series called "Bl@ck in America". Wait until "Gay in America" comes out. Should be soon.
If civil rights are boring for you, head on down to FOX. Or you could always watch The Colbert Report and pretend that he's actually on your side. (As I understand it, some of you folks aren't sure anyway.)
Great way to kill a comic series...who wants to read this crap?
I don't. But to be fair, I stopped reading comics about 25 years ago (I thought they were expensive at $.75-$1.29 each). But if I were still spending money on them, I wouldn't buy this one.
There you go. 4 buyers, that is a great economic coupe!
Me! You know, and other people who have more than 3 braincells?
Wow. Is this in your face gay month or what?
Seriously, enough already.
Are you talking to your daughter?
....and soon we will have the first super hero die of AIDS.
Why have you stopped printing my responses?
Stop the hate.
That already happened in the comics a long time ago... Shadowhawk.
Someone in Comics already died of AIDS, I don't know if they were Gay but I think it was a super hero. It was in the Incredible Hulk
Yeah Cap, and a superhero that is MORBIDLY OBESE......
Watt it's going on with this gay and leb issue ?do we need to see this on every window and every page and every tv chanel and every form of public media ?i think that there are mayor issue that we should be informed and try to resolve enstead ...
Its the media's attempt to brain wash you!
dude for real, your grammar is amazing, try to learn to spell and write in complete thoughts before you make a statement that is obviously silly and ignorant
"dude for real, your grammar is amazing, try to learn to spell and write in complete thoughts before you make a statement that is obviously silly and ignorant"
You're one to talk.
Okay seppe – Go to CNNs main page, count the gay stories, count the straight stories, and come back with the numbers. We'll talk about it.
I am not very religious, and don't necessarily believe in "god." But I have seen enough in my life to believe that Shakespeare had it right, "there are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." So for all the "God haters," you might want to be a little careful.
Shakespeare was obviously talking about aliens.
He could have been.
That could also mean there are more gods out there that could possibly be dreamt of, so why should I pay attention to a specific god? Why not Loki, or Dionysus? Why should I give a rat's ass what Christians believe?
Could be true. At this time, we don't know, and might never know.
One of the cool things about graphic novels is that there's a hero for everybody, no matter how messed up you are. Gay is just one of many ways a person can be messed up.
The only thing truly wrong here is the fact that comics are now $3.99 an issue. Who can afford them anymore?
google up "metzitzah bpeh" rabbis sucking baby penises and giving herpes
I'm not a diehard X-Men fan, but I know more than just the movies. Northstar being gay is as much a surprise to me as an article saying Hawkeye uses hearing aids.
When I was in the middle east, I discovered that muslims have a saying, "women are for children, men are for fun." Which really makes me wonder about them, with what the religion of islam says about gays. Of course, alcahol is against their religion as well, but when I was in the airports, in the international section waiting on flights, muslims were drinking like fish in water.
make that "alcohol." forgive the typo.
Read GENESIS 24:2-9, 47:29 ..jewish god hahsme/yahwe was the original fa660t. Look it up, I'm not exaggerating
Yeah you are exaggerating and a pervert as well. The hand under the thigh in ancient times was a more solemn oath than a handshake. Do a little research instead of trying to denegrate soemthing you know nothing about.
Funny, I heard the same saying from several Muslim men and yeah, had many beers with Muslims when I was over there.
this isn't the first gay suer hero ... what were the names of the dudes – the Ambiguously Gay duo – from SNL?
dont forget batman & robin, he-man, and most definately VOLTRON !!!
How is a robot gay
Sick and wrong! Comics are for children. They do not need to be exposed to these concepts until they are in their adulthood.
If you knew anything about the state of comics in 2012, you'd know that the only people really reading comics now are adults. Do you think a kid wants to spend $4 on a comic book??
Woah there! Comics are NOT for children! If you're letting your kids read those, you need to stop now. They are definitely made for adults.
Wow, you are really an uninformed moron. I'm amazed you're actually able to post on the internet.
I assume you have never done research on this, have you? Is YOUR opinion your only source of information? Such lack of education.
CNN is so gay!
Granger are people still saying this? How 2009
I guess Northstar is better than SUPERGAY MAN!
think his powers originated from uranus
I just lost a little respect for Marvel. Let’s keep comics about fantasy and fun for the kids and a little less about forcing someone else’s political views on other peoples kids. I doubt the gay community would like it very much if DC comics came out with a Catholic Super Hero who preaches that marriage is only between a man and a woman. Leave the kids out of it.
Comics have always been a way to let rational ideas reach people. There's nothing wrong with a gay-superhero, its not pushing a view on you, some people are gay. If there was a superhero who just preached the Bible, then that would be pushing a view.
This seems to be a common problem with Liberal and Atheist groups – they don't see that pushing their “anti-religious” or “pro-gay” view points on others is just as wrong as Bible thumpers pushing their religious viewpoints on others. Both sides need to mind their own P’s and Q’s and leave other people alone. Especially other people’s kids.
Yes, how dare Marvel acknowledge that gay people exist, or that they sometimes get married. And even though there are more adults than children who read comic books, comic book publishers should steer clear of any issue that is even remotely controversial. God forbid that they be allowed to write anything for the adults in their audience.
Umm, a Catholic like Nightcrawler? He is always talking about his faith. He doesn't preach against gay marriage, but depicting a gay wedding isn't exactly speaking for gay marriage. It's just showing a real thing that real people do. There are comic characters to represent just about anyone you can think of, including religious and gay characters.
Actually as far as I recall Nightcrawler(at least from the ultimate series) was pretty much against gays. He pretty much stopped befriending collosus because he was gay in that version(at least for a time)
don't we have any more important issues than giving these degenerate repulsive animals our time here on crapNN? Yo ucan NEVER force a straight man to support this kind of filth even if you turn upside down on your head. By trying to force this decadent filth on us you are only making people hate you more. Vast majority of men are straight and you want to make them support and like these few shameless ones? Will never happen I don't care what you try or say or do. Go cry about your clementi guy somewhere else we don't give a dammmm
"don't we have any more important issues than giving these degenerate repulsive animals our time here on crapNN? By trying to force this decadent filth on us you are only making people hate you more"
id say the same to you
No you can't say 'same" because i speak for majority while you speak for the minority of decadent parasites. Don't compare your opinions to me because it is YOU who is crying for same rights TO US ..not other way around. Know your place loser
you win the prize for idiot of the day. and that's saying alot, considering. congrats!
What makes you think you speak for the majority, big mouth?
how are you being forced, didnt you choose to read the article. Seriously gtfofggts you are so gay !!!
You are not speaking for a majority. You are speaking for people who think hate is what prevails.
Actually gay haters are not in the majority. 53% of Americans believe gay marriage should be legal. You are now the minority, soon to be extinct, joining all of your neanderthal cousins, only to be seen and pointed at by those who frequent museums.
Are you serious? Streets are one way for a reason dip stick
Why a gay marriage for Northstar? Why a marriage at all for Northstar? How many other mutants have had an edition dedicated to their marriage? I think the most effective gay marriage in the popular media was the marriage of Sam Adama in Caprica. He was a ruthless, violent, hard-to-like character that played a distinct role in the unfolding of the drama. Oh yeah, he was married to a man. They didn't discuss it, they didn't make his husband central in any way to his character, you only captured glimpses of this relationship. It was just that he was married to a man, and that was perfectly normal. Very effective potrayal in a TV series, if you ask me.
to avoid plummeting to far into nerddom, when wolverine was married, when cyclops married jean grey, when mr. fantastic married the invisible woman, and there are others i cant remember. these are all major characters in the marvel universe and they did have issues devoted to their wedding so its not a single occurrence.
oh and who can forget spider man marrying mary jane! that is an exact replica of this, hero marrying non hero.
hahahahahaha NOBODY read the article! Its states that Northstar first appeared back in the 80's yet comments address this as if Marvel just created him to be PC in 2012. Hahaha
i bet the black super hero is hung like a stud horse!
maybe 15 inches and superbly thick!
and i bet he swallows!
hmmmmmmmmmmmm......need some time to myself now!
You really sound like a SICK PIG who needs therapy!
HOW DID I GOT HERE?
NASTY , STUPID , GAY, REDICULUS ,UNIMPORTANT , TRYING TO MAKE MONEY OFF GAYS, TRYING TO CALL ATTENTION,
"HOW DID I GOT HERE?"
I dunno? Probably hopped a fence and ran into the USA. Am I right?
Sorry they shut down the comments sections over at Fox Eddie.
I guess over here at CNN you're just another racist/bigot troll.
WHY DO WE HAVE TO MAKE AVERYTHING GAY NOW, JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE FEW GAY PEOPLE IN THE PLANET?
Start counting the number of gay people in the world, and let me know when you stop.
Too bad they don't let you comment over at Fox anymore.
Bring your trash over here so we can educate you Eddie boy..
Eduardo, spoken like a true American
Any time someone in show business "comes out", it is usually a sign of failure (Rosie, Ellen are just two examples). If it takes gayness to shore up a show, comic, or personality, oblivion is right around the corner. The other big favorite is claiming molestation as a child. Can't these people and publications succeed without pandering?
Really, Marine? You feel that Ellen is not a success? Want to compare her tax returns to yours?
As a marine (supposedly)...you fought for other people's right for freedom.
Now here you are acting like a Taliban Teabagger.
You are a disgrace to the uniform.
Marine, Ellen is a top rated program...your wife if you have one probably watches her enthusiastically on TV..Rosie failed because she was opinionated and nasty...
"coming out" is emotionally and psychologically a personal and private matter... So I hear
Come on people. It's a comic. I read a comic for a whole mess of fighting, creative super powers and well-drawn characters. I don't read a comic to waste 10 minutes of my life watching a marriage. I mean c'mon this is a comic, this is fun. Why have they never done a marriage before? Because if a hero marries a non-hero, the non-hero is instantly a target. Now if Marvel ignores this, it seems stupid to me as it'd be interesting to watch. But, on the other side, should they get married they can't kill Kyle either because they'll look anti-gay. In my opinion this puts them in a position where nobody wins.
Peter parker and Mary Jane
Cyclops and Jean Gray
Yeah comics certainly never show marriages ever.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...black super hero meat!
i bet he taps his a$$ at the speed of light!
sorry for the typo's I just noticed a couple.
definately. this much judgemental bs from people who claim to live in a free country is really disapointing... oh wait... thats not what you were getting at was it?
Come on out Ed...you don't have to hide anymore.
GET OVER IT. You act like a little kid.
I do not consider myself liberal or conservative...I also feel to each there own ones decisions is between that person and god...However I am VERY upset by this, my young child reads Marvel comics as I am sure a lot of other parents young child and it sickens me that they feel that this is appropriate for young readers...My son is a huge fan of X-Men and the Avengers as well as my husband and myself...I know that Northstar come out along time ago and then they went no where with that story as it should have been....Needless to say We will no longer be buying Astonishing X-Men as long as this kind of story line is on the front burner...Ok I have put in my two cents....
I know RIGHT?!? How dare they allow a white super hero to marry a black man! I will NOT have my children reading that and thinking it is right! What are they doing thinking that is appropriate for kids?
See how STUPID you sound? You are nothing but a bigot.
I understand the concern of censoring inappropriate media from young readers- but I would like to know what about a marriage is considered "inappropriate." Hasn't your child read the marriages of the straight characters in the comics? Hasn't he seen characters kissing? Hasn't he seen characters fighting, k i lling, so on and so forth? How is all of that somehow more /appropriate/ than a couple of characters saying their "I do's" and maybe sharing a kiss.
Your child will most likely glance over the page, shrug, and go on reading the rest of the comic, because he only really cares about the action scenes. If he asks for an explanation, all you have to say is "Well i guess they just decided to get married."
You don't have to talk about s e x with him because this issue isn't about /that/. It's about two men holding hands and getting married.
It's no more "inappropriate" than a man and a woman doing the exact same thing.
There's /my/ two cents.
Common gay is not the NORMAL actions; even biologically we are made a certain way so we can reproduce it men to men or women to women were able to reproduce then I would say this is the natural selection of things. That is not the same here either. It is natural for men and woman it is not natural for two of the same kind to show affection. There is a difference and it has a place for it in an adult setting not in a comic book. Let children gloss over action scene after action seen not bombard them with this crap.
Common Sense? !! What fantasy land are you living in where gay is normal or healthy and two men having a romance doesn't bring up questions about s e x ?? You're nuts! Come back to reality buddy.
2 cents is about what your comment was worth. What are you going to come up with when the first openly tranny super hero comes out or the first openly pedophile super hero? Stop shoving this down my throat as I'm about to puke already.
Go back under the rock you came out of.
Sad so sad. However, I have to wonder if all this "gay stuff" would be splashed daily on CNN if it were not politically motivated? I guess I will have to sensor comics now along with TV, movies, CD's and cartoons!!
What kind of comic sensor do you have?
That's your right in a free country.
I don't see anyone trying to prevent you from it.
I bet you can't wait until Fox allows comments again.
DEFINITE sign of the end times.
Yes....the end times...the end of bigotry and discrimination that has been making a mockery of our free country since it's beginning.
um, "Norm", discrimination is actually a GOOD thing. You are supposed to discriminate against things that are unhealthy and harmful.
Why wait, Flamingo Kid? Go meet Jesus halfway
I find this point fasinating Mr. Sam Stone who must be a faaaaaaaggggg cause you are all over this site with your trash calling everyone a bigot who does see your point. Hey Sam lets stop messing around with the faaaggg agenda and lets start issuing COLORING BOOKS IN PRE SCHOOL TO 4 AND 5 YEAR OLDS TO HELP PUSH YOUR PATHETIC AGENDA BOYYYYYYY!!!! THIS WAY OF LIFE IS WRONG PERIOD AND WE WILL FIGHT THIS TO THE END!!!!!!
Here's a radical thought: If this storyline offends you, don't buy the comic. In the meantime, all of the "exterminate the gays" talk smells a lot like people protesting too much.
This is go gay!
Brian is obviously a Nazi. He'd be the first one to build concentration camps.
Why does the human race continually erode good moral values? What is next? Pedophilia? Who's to say that age should be a limitation? I mean really that or beastiality is the only two things left that are on the next moral boundary. If things are permitted to go on, we will all be living in Sodom.
why do you look at it as an erosion of morality rather than an evolution of it? do you seriously expect that what was considered moral in a iron age, middle eastern agrarian society would be moral to 21st century man?
the blob fish evolved from something into what it is, doesn't mean it's a better thing...
and why do you feel you have any authority to determine what is "better"?
Sam Stone, here is a dose of your own "logic" for you......
Since you deny any moral relativism, and in your view there should be no moral laws or standards, why don't you, next time you get in your car, go to an edge of a cliff and apply your logic there... Imagine your car will fly... after all, it should, according to your "logic, since no laws of Nature apply! ...... Just let it go, and you go with it! !
PRISM: You equate the laws of the bible with those of nature?
I got some evolution for you Sam BOY, Gays cannot procreate because they lack the necessary biological organs to do so which means there is a high possibility of this pathetic group of losers to die out as time goes on like the Black Plague, FOOL!!!!
We've BEEN living in Sodom.
I am sure you are the bastian of moral values ! Get off your hypocritical high horse and stop spinning your tired old bs .
I'll be leaving in America, the land of the free. You'll be leaving in denial.
Crap, should say living, not leaving.
Let me guess...you get your "good moral values" from a bronze aged book written by a bunch of fallible humans. Just like child molesting priests do. I say thanks, but no thanks to those "moral values"
Keep telling yourself you have excuses to hate what is good and practice what is bad. In the end, it will all be in your head. You can rationalize any lifestyle. Heck, there are people worshiping rats and believe in evolution. Senseless ones.
OMG Moral Boundary Take Down!!!! That is EXACTLY what I have been saying the last couple of years!!!! Where do we draw the line??? And what id next? You can't tell old man peter that he can't enjoy children? Stop trying to degridate everyone's values to what someone else lowers themselves to.
Well golly gee whiz....now we all know what YOU fantasize about....
Thanks for sharing...............
Sam and why do you feel evolving into this is better? Who made you the moral judge?
In Germany, they had an incestuous couple trying to get married. Thankfully, the german court ruled against them and took steps to make them stop producing deformed children. crazy, immoral, messed-up world.
Really? Sick and Bob before you say Bigot "I am a bigot and proud of it".
Is this a joke?
Given that there has NOT be a straight marriage, there should NOT be a gay marriage. Comics are for saving the world, not making political statements or brainwashing kids.
Bad form. I will be sure my grandkids no longer support this vendor
Good point. Why the heck put marriage into comics? Sorry, but when I saw two gay guys kiss on Smash, I did one of those mini-pukes. It was involuntary. Maybe if I see it a lot, I will get used to it? It is so unnatural.
There have been HUNDREDS of marragies in comics... You don't know what you are talking about, but hey keep raising those grand kids to be bigots...
So not liking the gay lifestyle is being called bigotry? You have got to be kidding me. That is lame...
kidding me: who said you have to like it?
sam stone and kidding me... sure seem to be spending a lot of time here talking negative about this story ... closet cases for sure !
Stone: Nobody said you have to like me not liking the gay lifestyle either... LOL
You do know Peter Pan is gay right?
kidding me: is it easier to discriminate if you call an orientation a "lifestyle"?
kidding me: disliking it is one thing, denying people their civil rights is another. and, yes that is bigotry.
orion: how am i talking negative about this story?
Im completely fine with gay, straight, – whatever you want to do, as long as it doesnt hurt others – but, I just dont think its necessary in super hero comics. I thought the point was the fight against the evil villian – not social commentary. I dont think a straight marriage has any place in super hero comics – thats just not what they are about in my mind...
maybe fighting against the evil villian IS social commentary
You must not know much about comics. They haven't been as simple as "good guy smashes bad guy" in at least 40 years. Spider-Man has been married to Mary Jane off and on, through deaths, rebirths, clones, divorces, smoking addiction, affairs, ad nauseum since 1987. Northstar first came out as gay in 1992. And comics were talking about social issues LONG before these two events.
is that you????
he's an x-man... few other comics are as much a social commentary tool as that series. it seems few people who actually read comics have a problem with this.
I don't care. I'm just glad it wasn't the green lantern.
This is nasty. I honestly believe all gays should be exterminated.
Bigmouth Brian: Go to the gay person's parents and tell them you want their child exterminated. See what that gets you. With any luck, it will get you a 9mm between the eyes
That's okay. I would honestly like you exterminated.
I think people who hatch out morons like you should be sterilized before you can be conceived !!!!
Come on Brian....exterminate all gays???
Then you'll be the only one.
Now I see what you're up to..............
can't we give all this gay stuff a rest........gee whiz
I agree. You open CNN's website and every day there is a new "gay" story or issue read about. CNN definately has an agenda.
Get over it !!!!
I thought this was a news network, not a Gay this and Gay that life style network.
Cnn has become so predictible and so biased. When they have taken this much time and energy to give all air time to support the gay agenda – instead of covering the story from both sides.....understanding that free speech is on the table – in the end they will lose......long term. Cnn you are no longer a credible new operation.....haven't been for years now – but heres a new word you need to get used – Sanctions
Just curious. What's the "other side of the agenda." Catholic priests talking about how sinful it is for males to boink males? Could they do that with a straight face?
Yes....let's tell all the gays to turn it off now.
They've made their point.
I wish they would shut up!! Couldnt care less about Adam and Steve.
How lame, it's a superhero no one has ever heard of, who cares?
Anyone who reads comics knows who he is. He was in Alpha Flight, the Canadian team that fought the X-Men then later became allies.
Is that you????
Um, Marvel's been pretty progressive for a while now, scott. If you're just seeing this now, you haven't been paying attention.
progressive? more like stupid
Juliet doesn't like gays because they take all the guys away that would normally date ugly, manly looking women.
Says anna who loves loves to choke on the same thing they do....
Anna what? Did you catch your toothless reflection in the mirror?
safe to say there are some gayguys working for marvel. this is effin sick.keep it in the closet. guess I wont be seeing spiderman afterall.you blew it marvel.
Really, Scott? You're that offended? What is it with you conservatives, you're such a hateful, intolerant bunch.
How did you even know that Scott is a conservative? Your a dooshbag gay loving liberal fa-gg your self. We dont want to see all this gay stuff dont you get it? We will exterminate your gay kind in the future i promise you that.
brian: more big mouth bloviating. you will not eliminate gays because straight people keep on giving birth to them. now, boy, go home and get your shinebox....
Hmm, did anyone else notice that everyone on this thread who is against gays seems to be brimming with hatred and can't construct a complete sentence? Brian even gives us a nice "extermination" threat, but I'm willing to bet the irony will be lost on him the next time he accuses liberals of being like Hitler. It's sad, what has become of the right-wing.
Brian is one of those keyboard warriors.
He's so afraid of gays he won't leave the house anymore because he thinks he might catch it and start hanging WHAM posters all over his mother's basement.
That's exactly it. Conservative bigots DON'T WANT TO SEE IT. Somehow gays existing in society like everyone else is now cramming the lifestyle down their throats. Too bad it doesn't work that way. I have a big problem with all those Republicans that believe they have the right to be out in public. Can we put them in the closet?
Interesting use of words "you blew it marvel"
I should know this but which is the bride and which is the groom? Or perhaps at the wedding the men attending can kiss both?
Since when has the idea of comic books been to recognize all the people that exist?
They are both grooms...both males... The idea that in a gay couple there is a "man" and a "woman" is part of the Christianazi agenda...being gay means that you want to love, own real estate and share a lifetime with a MAN...not a woman, or a man that wants to be a woman, or a child....I know in your black and white brain this is difficult to comprehend but go ahead try.... Now go get another beer and hot pocket
Yeah, I'm sure they're crushed that you'll be keeping your hard-earned 6 bucks to yourself.
Yeah Scott....Marvel is going to go belly up without your money.
Scott, spiderman won't be released in VHS so you weren't going to see it anyway
These are two DRAWINGS getting married. Not real life, although the US would do well to allow marriage equality. That's a different discussion, however. The point is, this is a fantasy – not real. Kinda like the bible is a fantasy and not real. See?
Kinda like two people of the same gender think they are having a "real" marriage – but it's just pretend. Funny how people can spin that insult any which way to get their hate out.
two people of the gender can have a real marriage. after all, it is the government which determines what a "real marriage" is
Careful David. Your hatred of religion is showing.
The bible is based partly on historical events, not makebelieve characters. So you are either ignorant of the Bible or just spewing hate. I would hope this is a comic that is in an adult (non minor) section of comic book stores if there is one. I just don't think this would be proper reading for a 8 year old.
Perhaps it's not ignorance or hatred of religion. Rather, perhaps it is the acknowledgement of his belief the bible (whether signifying true historical events or not withstanding) is just fantasy. There's nothing wrong with being an atheist or agnostic; it's simply a tenet of his belief system. As is your belief in the bible as the word or god, or whatever.
Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter is based partly on historical events, for all that that matters.
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