Editor's note: Erika D. Peterman is a Florida-based writer and editor, and the co-creator of the comics blog Girls-Gone-Geek.com.
Ask someone unfamiliar with comic books to name three superheroes, and chances are that they’ll mention Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman — arguably the most iconic representatives of the capes genre. Until very recently, it was far less likely that the average person would have cited or even considered Green Lantern.
So it would stand to reason that Wonder Woman, who has been a major part of the DC Universe since 1941, would get the big-screen treatment long before a second-tier character that only recently entered the general public consciousness. Yet, Hal Jordan made it to Hollywood first and already has a sequel in the works. Amazon Princess Diana can’t even get a live-action TV show off the ground.
It’s bad enough that Wonder Woman has consistently received second-class-citizen treatment compared to her alleged equals. The Man of Steel and the Dark Knight have had several major motion pictures across several generations, with more on the way. Wonder Woman’s last big moment outside of comics was when Lynda Carter donned the costume in the ’70s. Not to harp on Green Lantern, who is perfectly OK, but it’s ludicrous that he’s the star of a franchise while there’s still no Wonder Woman film in sight.
Whether on message boards or in conversations with other comic book readers, we’ve heard several theories about why this project hasn’t happened, despite some well-documented attempts to make it so. Out of sheer frustration, we’re going to address them, as well as other things that could be behind the foot-dragging.
More than once, I’ve seen Wonder Woman referred to as a boring character who doesn’t have enough good story material to draw upon. Not true. Several authors, notably George Perez, Greg Rucka and Gail Simone, have created compelling stories based on Diana’s Greek mythology-based origin. She’s been presented as an innocent newcomer to Man’s World, a misunderstood, peace-loving warrior (an interesting contradiction) and a hero adrift after forsaking her own gods. Her comic book history has been uneven, but it’s hard to believe that no one can come up with a winning script from decades of storytelling.
Even in 2011, some consider a big-budget action movie with a female lead to be a risky proposition. But if people won’t pay 10 bucks to see one, why is a Tomb Raider reboot in the works? A film about an iconic superheroine with awe-inspiring powers is hardly a tough sell. If the script and the buzz are good enough, it’s a safe bet that people will line up. Imagine the bullets ricocheting off of her bracelets in 3-D!
Granted, Wonder Woman has large boots to fill. She’s a regal, statuesque princess with goddess-given beauty. But if a studio can find someone to play an idealized character like Twilight’s Edward Cullen — or Superman, for that matter — surely there is a dazzling unknown with the right look and the acting chops to play Wonder Woman. Catherine Zeta-Jones would have been perfect 15 years ago, and she’d still be wonderful as Diana’s ageless mother, Queen Hippolyta. The point is, she’s out there if a studio is willing to look.
Wonder Woman’s famous wardrobe change from star-spangled briefs to dark pants earlier this year was a nod to modernity and practicality. Though we liked the briefs, going with pants might be one way to address the concern about her outfit being dated or looking campy. Bright, primary-colored costumes are tricky to adapt for the screen because they have to be instantly recognizable without coming off as silly. However, it’s probably easier for an actress to get away with wearing a patriotic bathing suit if she has the right presence. Even today, Christopher Reeve looks commanding in a late 1970s interpretation of Superman’s costume. Why? Because he was so utterly perfect for the role.
The 2009 direct-to-DVD, animated Wonder Woman movie was very well done, but it’s just not the same — especially when so many other superheroes are starring in cartoon movies and TV shows, and live-action films. If you want proof of the demand, just look around the Internet, where her fans have created their own movie posters and consistently expressed a desire to see Diana’s story in theaters. Even Beyonce wants in, saying she’d be happy to wear the tiara.
Summer 2011 yielded a film feast for comic book fans, and next year is shaping up to be even better. But as long as Wonder Woman’s invisible jet is idling on the runway, there will always be something missing.
I want that movie relised sooooon as possible :)
Traci Dinwiddie would rock the role as Wonder Woman. She has a diversity of experience and the look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoBFPMuT1tM
Just heard there may be A new problem in getting A Wonder Woman movie. NBC Universal is saying they have A copyright on Wonder Woman. Does this mean they can block any new movies or TV shows. I thought they leased W.W. from DC Comics and the lease got cancled because they didn't show the TV movie. Anybody got better handle on this.
Apropos of nothing, except maybe continuing my earlier post about how WW doesn't have an iconic villain...
...WW's other problem is her characterization. Superman is...Kal-El of Krypton – the Big Blue Boy Scout. Batman is the Batman. Spider-man is the wise-cracking victim of radiation (or mutagenic) poisoning. There have been variations over the decades, but they've never strayed far from their basic personality or backstory.
WW has been all over the place. She's been the personification of love & compassion; a diplomat; a ruthless warrior; a 60s modiste, etc., etc. DC hasn't been able to figure her out in 70 years, and consequently we have all these different versions, visions, interpretations...call them what you will. And each is favoured by some segment of fandom. Well, maybe not the Mod Squad knock off...(dons fire-retardant protective gear).
One problem anyone making a WW movie is going to face is picking which of WWs many personalities they're going to put on the screen. They can pick one, maybe two – a primary and a secondary. But whichever ones they pick, they're going to disappoint (or even piss off) a large segment of their fan base. And some of these will decide they don't want to see a movie that doesn't have "their" Diana in it.
So, for the record...she's not "your" Diana. She's not "our" Wonder Woman. She is the Wonder Woman of whomever happens to be in charge of the production. You can agree with that person, or disagree – everyone is entitled to their opinion. But, in order to facilitate a WW movie, there should be some kind of petition or something, being signed by fans who a) want a WW movie; b) guarantee that they will buy at least one ticket to see it; and c) guarantee that they will suspend judgment on the interpretation of Diana until they see the movie.
It couldn't hurt. And if you get something like half a milllion signatures on it, you might just convince a studio executive to take a shot at this – they just got a guaranteed $5 million in domestic ticket sales, which probably translates to $80-$100 million when average movie-goers are factored in.
TO JMW you are sooooooooooo right were do I sign the pedtiton
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Hi it's me agin heard that the Wonder Woman movie will depend on the sucess of the upcoming Logans Run remake. If it does well WB will let the director do WW.
I think part of the problem is that if you ask someone who is not familiar with comics who the main enemy of Batman is, you get "Joker" (and would have before The Dark Knight). Superman? Lex Luthor. Spider-man? You might actually get a range of answers.
Wonder Woman? Who is Wonder Woman's iconic villain?
Part of the success of an action movie is that the lead character, the hero(ine) must have a villain who is worthy to challenge him/her, and who is instantly recognizable as a threat, or can quickly be established as such. Consider Darth Vader in Star Wars IV: A New Hope. The first time you see him, he picks someone up by the neck, asks him a few questions, and then kills him.
So I think that Wonder Woman is hampered in the minds of studio executives not just by her gender, but also by the fact that they don't feel they can put up an opponent against her that will bring in the non-comic book reading public.
Green Lantern? He had Parallax in his movie. And how well did that do? The sequel probably got approved, in part, because everyone knows the villain of the next movie will be Sinestro.
Give WW a decent villain and there's a better chance than there is now...
I agree. As far as a heroine lead I think a She-Hulk movie would be cool. The only thing is does she have someone worthy to go up against? Not really. Most of her enemies are about the same as Hulk's and she's not even as strong as Hulk. Could Elektra have been a better movie? Yes, had there been better casting during Daredevil, but they had to keep continuity. Honestly, I could have seen someone like Maggie Q being Elektra. Unfortunately, that movie was just bland. And Catwoman.. well that was horrendus from the start. IMO, it all boils down to "how interesting is this character". Now if the gender thing is a problem for some producers then it is a crying shame.
I agree with what was said that if it had a similar feel as Xena: Warrior Princess then it would. IMO, Xena was the last sucessful female hero. Me personally, I never really was a fan of Wonder Woman. Then again I've never been much of a DC reader either, but I respect their longevity. I think what hurts is that she falls in that category as "generic super hero". She's pretty much Super Woman except she's a goddess, not an alien and has less powers.
This Wikipedia article will shot the mouth of does individuals that think Wonder Woman won't make hollywood money....
(US sales) Units
(US sales) Ref.
2007 Superman: Doomsday $9,445,832 683,202 
2008 Justice League: The New Frontier $5,234,644 300,677 
2008 Batman: Gotham Knight $8,062,630 395,286 
2009 Wonder Woman $7,200,326 462,067 
2009 Green Lantern: First Flight $6,167,290 379,910 
2009 Superman/Batman: Public Enemies $8,126,313 541,074 
2010 Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths $5,269,940 356,711 
2010 Batman: Under the Red Hood $6,773,661 503,879 
2010 Superman/Batman: Apocalypse $6,017,013 368,989 
2010 DC Showcase Original Shorts Collection $3,714,236 269,505 
2011 All-Star Superman $4,189,452 247,768 
2011 Green Lantern: Emerald Knights $2,704,518 188,860 
Totals: $71,190,338 4,571,818
Wonder Woman animated movie did better than The Green Lantern movies and even better than Batman: Under the Red Hood which I thought it was a pretty good movie. Producers are looking at DVD sales more than comic book sales... I would think!
Oh and the numbers next to the money gross is the number of DVD sold.
I want to see a Wonder Woman movie, but I believe Diana would be hard to cast. In my opinion, Diana is very complex. She's beautiful, intelligent, athletic, compassionate etc.. I can't see any actress doing her justice. However, I'm hoping Warner Brothers will take the same approach as the movie "Clash of the Titans". When I saw the movie, the first superhero that popped to my head was Wonder Woman. Obviously, the story was short and their wasn't a-lot of character development. But, I loved Mount Olympis, the gods, the action etc... Please Warner Brothers, I'm tired of seing batdouch on t.v....
WONDER Women will always be my fav. heroine. SHe had helped me through
my darkest hour. She does earn the right to her movie and to stand next to Superman and Batman not behind. a movie can be made. she does have a past(eg who is her father) they could script up something that has to do with where she comes from. Does anyone know how she was born. why not start there??? we have batman history with his parents and lifestyle and superman strugles in a normal world without parents.
why can't we start there with WW????. she does have a story to tell.
she does have another identity "Diane Prince" before Justice League.
She does have enemies mankind itself. JOker was a man before he became a villian. Aries is also her enemy. She has enemies from outer space
if you've seen her shows you which one I'm talking about. Y not work that in?
Go beyond Justice League. every Character has a secret and a past
For GOD sakes look at Wolverine..........look how they developed his background in X-MAN Wolverine. That said they won't take a change on her because she is a WOMAN not because she has no history!!!!!111
After Catwoman and Elektra, it will be hard to ever see Wonder Woman come to the big screen. She has as much of a chance as Zatanna and Tigress. lOl
Obviously, the costume is very important. there are fans who hate the new pants look (I'm one of them) because to me, she's not Wonder Woman but looks more like a hooker. getting the costume right should be a priority, next would be the story.
you can't do a Wonder Woman without exploring her origin story - this is where David E. Kelley's pilot failed. apparently, he had planned to include Paradise Island in an earlier concept, but for whatever reason, decided to drop PI entirely from the script.
Wonder Woman doesn't have to be cheesy. Christopher Nolan saved the Batman franchise by taking out the cheesiness and gay innuendo that was a part of the Joel Schumacher movies and based Batman in reality.
I think Wonder Woman would work as a drama, but still contain those comic book elements that are so important to the mythos. of course, she can't be too dark that her character is unrecognizable either.
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I have been boycotting superhero movies for years, and I will continue to do so until Wonder Woman is made. It's very lame that all of these stupid male characters are getting all of these movies, and Wonder Woman whose been around since 1942 doesn't even have one. She's even proven herself already on the small screen as the Wonder Woman tv show starring Lynda Carter was a big hit. It's inexcusable.
yeah, that is really not how the movie industry (an by extension the entertainment industry at large) works. Wonder Woman could have been around since the big bang, that doesn't get her a movie. She not a strong enough character to get a movie.
Actually if we were going by your system, the next character to have a movie should be Captain Marvel... After all he predates Wonder Woman & he also had a short live successful TV show (which also predates WW's TV show). Heck Captain Marvel comics were more popular the WW back in the day too. But they won't make a Shazam film for exactly the same reason: Because the character has no mass appeal.
She is a powerful role model for girls and women and honestly, men love women in tight clothes, so how is there not mass appeal. Her story is much better written than Elektra or pretty much every hero/villain other than Batman and Superman, and quite honestly, her story is equal to these 2 titans. Let's be honest – it is a matter of sexism. Women want a strong portrayal of her character and show biz wants a sex machine. The story is no worse than any other and there are tons of interpretations that could easily be adapted to the screen.
Uma Thurman could do a great job.
I think they should look at making Wonder Woman more like Xena. The Xena TV series helped a number of strong female hero shows make it onto TV by showing there was a market for though female heroes. The original Buffy the Vampire Slayer was given quite a make over from the original movie version and turned into a more of a true female role model , in part thanks to the success of Xena. Lucy Lawless has voiced Wonder woman in an animated movie and if they have to go with a younger actress for the role and not choose Lucy, I think she would make the perfect woman to play Diana's mother!
NO WAY fans DONT want to see a rip off of Xena
movie or TV show the only real choice for the new wonder woman is jennifer wenger she's a natural for the role
I totally agree with everything you have pointed out. I don't think Xena fans will get mad if they try to request advice from Xena producers. I think is a very logical suggestion.
It's hard to make a good superhero movie but it is even harder for Hollywood to try something new and do it right. Stan Lee said it best, in Hollywood no one wants to be first but everyone wants to be second. One successful superheroine movie will spawn many others, but until then if you mention a superheroine movie to a Hollywood type they'll think of Helen Slater in Supergirl and that'll end the conversation. The memory of failures last longer than the memories of successes.
I’m not sure if Miss Petermen is ignoring certain facts that fly in the face of her conclusions or if she’s simply ignorant of comic history. I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt and say the latter.
First off, lets address her tendency to compare apples with oranges. Tomb Raider is one of the most popular video games ever. Ever. It’s got a huge male and female gamer following. Not so with Wonder Woman (who doesn‘t ever have her own video game). It would be like comparing Wonder Woman to Donkey Kong. It’s a moronic comparison. And for those that don’t get it, Wonder Woman is also not comparable to “Ripley” and the Aliens franchise. Could she be? Possibly. But that would take a lot of work and it seems that no one is willing to do the work.
The problem with Wonder Woman is that while she is still an iconic “merchandising” presence, she is not that iconic in the world of comic fandom any more. Decent sales for MAC cosmetics don’t automatically translate into a massive fan base. Rabid, die hard fans refuse to acknowledge this simple fact. While DC still tries in vain to keep her in as part of the holy comic “trinity“, there are obviously more popular characters with the sales to back it up such as Flash, Green Lantern and others.
Remember when Bob Dole ran for president? Everyone knew he couldn’t win against Clinton but everyone just deferred to him because people felt “he earned it“ or because it was “his turn“. Well, Wonder Woman is the Bob Dole of DC. Wonder Woman’s sales are historically bad and while a few vocal fans think it’s her turn to be in a movie, that she’s earned it, the fact is she won’t put asses in the seats. She can’t win at the box office. Her appeal is no longer drawn from a solid comic fan base but from a nostalgia factor based on a steady stream of merchandising that’s kept that nostalgia limping along since the Linda Carter days.
Miss Peterman rejects the notion that there are no good Wonder Woman stories and I agree with her. There are plenty of good Wonder Woman stories. The problem is that sales for those stories are terrible. Even the Perez and Byrne runs which spiked the historically low sales for WW temporarily, eventually plummeted. Same with Rucka, same with Simone same with Picoult.
There is a big difference between knowing of a characters existence and knowing everything about a character and the average joe or joanne falls into the latter category when it comes to WW. There are certain things that fans of “movie superheroes” expect from a Superman or a Batman movie. But what do people who are only fans of Superheroes through film and television know or expect from a WW movie? Who knows? And that’s the problem. As someone pointed out in the comments, she has no iconic rogues gallery. She doesn’t even have a single iconic arch enemy. No one really knows what her alter ego does for a living. Everyone knows Peter Parker is a photographer, Bruce Wayne is a millionaire playboy, Clark Kent is a reporter. Diana Prince? Who the hell knows? The writers on the recent failed tv pilot didn’t know either. Hell, they were so confused about the character they gave her two alter egos. Only a die hard WW fan knows anything about the United Nations thing. The few remaining people who remember the Linda Carter show vaguely remember her as a secretary. And I don’t think Diana Prince rooming with a bunch of talking, albino gorillas is going to go over real well with audiences. But I could be wrong.
Which takes me to Miss Petersons comparison of WW to Green Lantern. What Miss Peterson fails to mention is that Green Lanterns status in the DC universe has changed drastically. The “Blackest Night/Brightest Day” Green Lantern event outsold WW by 10 to 1. It was the most popular story in comics for over a year. Anyone remember a WW story like that? No, you don’t remember a WW story like that because there wasn’t one. Even having WW break a guys neck did nothing for the sales of her book. So what did DC/Warners do having seen these terrific numbers? They made a movie naturally. While once upon a time, way way back in the 40s, WW might have had solid sales, those days are over. Really, fans are lucky to have the half hearted attempt at a tv pilot and an animated movie. Because really, no one with any common business sense is going to take a chance on a big budget movie about a comic book character that people are only peripherally familiar with through cosmetic sales and kids sleeping bags and back packs, who has a comic that has historically terrible sales.
Wonder Woman will only really work in a group dynamic such as Justice League, where she doesn’t have to be fleshed out too much. She doesn’t hold up to scrutiny so featuring her in a JL movie would be the best thing. Sorry all you WW fans, but your favorite character just ain’t what she used to be. Everyone but the fans seem to know this.
Go FUCK yourself JohnV you mysoginistic small dicked piss worshipper!!!
actually mate, JohnV is right. Wonder Woman has no ability to put arses in seats & now with the horror direction they are taking with her in the relaunch, theres even less chance.
"Go FUCK yourself JohnV you mysoginistic small dicked piss worshipper!!!"
As for mysoginistic, JohnV didn't say anything to indicate that he hates Wonder Woman, let alone all women, so that would stop him from being a mysoginit. As for the attatmept at shaming language, he could have no penis at all & it wouldn' invalidate what he said. The fact is that Wonder Woman is not an interesting character, nor will DC make another big budget film not based on Superman or Batman for a good long while after the Green Lantern flop & if they did, there are plenty of more interesting properties they could try. Heck if Runaways is a success, they'll probably do a Legion movie before they do a Wonder Woman movie.
Because the one thing that this article missed, that Wonder Woman does not have is appeal. She has no mass appeal (even in comics, her home medium) & she has no cross genre appeal.
Nice to have a representative from dcwomenkickingass here today.
I do understand how the truth can make those in denial very angry. Chin up kiddo.
Well John just do not go to the movie. P.S. you do not need a Wonder Woman, that blow up version you are using will do.
Seriously? That's the best you can do? With all the technological advances in sex toys you give me the time worn "blow up doll"? You can do better than that.
I don't agree with the fact that JohnV is counter commenting against this article. I think as a DC comic fan we all know that if you have your favorite superhero you will want to see the movie made I will think we have that in common and to do this to WW fans is not cool.
I think is uncalled for, after WW fans we are all trying to get the movie made and this article really can help us get towards that and then you take the opportunity to mock one of the most iconic characters on comic history. Your opinion of WW doesn't speak for the thousands of fans WW have. And if DC still promotes, include, and takes the time to revamp her that means they believe in her. And a movie will not be made without the consent of DC, so to me the revamping is a positive outlook on DC and WW.
I think since the FB era WW has gotten really popular, there are so many WW pages and people are always eggier to comment about her. In terms of Mac cosmetics... Mac stores in NYC sold out of the WW merchandise in almost all it's stores. My local comic book store in Union Square is always sold out of Wonder Woman merchandise and comic book stories.
In regards to her character, she is very much "genre appealing". Greek mythology is very fun to play with, the hole Renaissance era, the hole Baroque era was based mostly in Greek Mythology and these periods were fundamentally what gave genre appeal to art as we know it and Greek Mythology is the very basics of Wonder Woman. If a producer takes this under consideration and mixed it up with a modern twists they will definitely have an interesting production that will glorified the importance of having a superhero woman as a role model for little, and young girls in our times.
It is time to give women a chance to be part of the super hero movie experience and I think WW is the perfect candidate for the job.
Oh and by the way Cheetah, Aries, Sliver Swan, Circe are Wonder Woman's main nemesis. Right there tells you how much fun and variety WW character have she have not only one nemesis she have plenty to work with.
Only your points don't hold water. By your last argument, GL had sold with an upsurge in comic books and therefore was worthy of a movie. And you argue that Wonder Woman had never done well, even during her highest status in comics.
Take into account then that the old tv show got famous when WW comics were at one of its lowest sales ranks. On your validity about sales, the counter point Erika Peterman is making is that the direct-to-dvd still did remarkably well. So, even if you go by comic book standings alone, despite it all WW actually has icon status above and beyond that. Larger than GL even at his failed movie status. There's more proof even here in the replies that there's a huge amount of people ready to see a WW movie. Comic book faithful or no. That alone should shave off the risk reluctance from producers.
I want my Wonder Woman movie, too.
But this rebooted Wonder Woman sucks and the new suit looks TERRIBLE!
The classic outfit looks much better and it should go back that way but only if this stupid-ass DC reboot flops!
AND, just like Thor, Spider-man, Iron Man, the Incredible Hulk,
IT ALL HAS TO BE DONE RIGHT IF IT'S GOING TO BE A HIT!!!!
a Justice League movie without Wonder Woman? but isn't WW a founding member of the JLA?
Interesting article. I've been doing a multi-part series considering the exact same thing at FemPop. I eventually came to a similar conclusion. Wonder Woman's sex is a major hindrance to a film. Which is a damn shame.
There's a couple of great actresses. Nicholas Refn desperately wants to make the film with Christina Hendricks starring. Gina Torres is a geek favorite (if that geek is open minded enough).
I'm still partial to Adrianne Palicki myself. That's always appeared to be the one thing Kelley did right with his terrible pilot.
Wonder Womans sex is not a hinderance... Thats like me saying that they'll never make a Wonder Man movie because of his gender... No, they wont make it, because the character is an extreme risk across the board. No city to protect, no fully realized mission statement (not one that leads to a life as a superhero), no double identity (depending on what version of WW we are talking about), no easily recognisable civilian job, no limitations, Ill defined powers (she throws a freaking tiara for goodness sake), fuzzy history that very few people know anything about (other then feminist idol... whatever the hell that means these days. Oh that and she was created by someone who sounds like a pervert).
As far as being a character goes, Wonder Woman has every single red flag you could possibly have on a fictional character to stop a movie. If DC were to make a movie, they would essentially have to rebuild the character from the ground up, which would then piss off the purists & fangirls (the audience they would be banking on).
An now the comics been rebooted & they are going whole hog with the greek horror direction, there is zero chance of a movie.
Jamie Alexander, the actress that played Sif in Thor would be good.
The question, "Why is there no Wonder Woman movie" is a simple one. The answer howver, isn't. Face it... for however many geeks girls there are, there's far more fanboys outnumbering us 10 to 3. Not every fanboy is gonns choose WW over Batman, Superman, GL or even the Flash. Not because they think she's boring, but because they already have their Superman. WW was created by William Moulton Marston in an attempt to give girls a 'Superman' figure. That having been said, the industry (comic books and film) have catered to the fanboys by giving them male superheroes that are the prototypical fantasy of every kid that grew up being uncool and bullied. And just as the male superheroes live up to a stereotype so do thr female characters which is why the skimpy outfits and lower place on the pedestal turns everyone off. Hence the failure of Elektra and Halle Berry's Catwoman of fail. Wonder Woman has the potential to garner the respect Superman and Batman have because she has a storied history, a pedigree and a strong fanbase. But she's missing the fanboy aspect. So long as male comic book readers see her as a chick book, she'll never get the respect. Despite the fact that us fangirls read all the male titles and without prejudice.
why am I reading all these comments?
I don't know. But they make me think, "This is why we can't have nice things."
I would love to see a movie as long as:
1) Lynda Carter has some role in it, preferably as Diana’s mother. There is a whole universe of fans due to her and her television version only.
2) The actress can credibly fill the boots of such an iconic character, no experiments please.
3) They respect the mythology and canon of the character, no pathetic modern reinterpretations a la Thor the alien instead of Thor the punished god.
4) Obviously and almost the most important thing: don’t mess up with the costume, even in the prudish 1940’s she was about showing some legs, don’t cover her up.
I trust they could easily come up with a good plot if they really try, so that’s discounted from my list.
I concur. The Captain America movie shows that a Wonder Woman movie set in the 1940s rather than modern day could work very well.
Wonder Woman would make a great movie. However there are several things that do not work in her favor:
1. City. Superman has Metropolis, Batman has Gotham, Spider-Man (and virtually every other Marvel character – New York).
Wonder Woman does not have a city in which to call her own. She is constantly mobile. Give her a city. Washington DC worked in the 70's TV show.
2. Villain. Superman has Lex Luthor, Batman has The Joker, Spider-Man – Green Goblin.
Many people, including ones who do not read comics can name these villains. But if you ask someone to think of a Wonder Woman villain they cannot come up with one. As a comic book fan I can list: Cheetah, and Giganta and Ares. All three would be amazing if done correctly.
3. Duel Identity. Superman is Clark Kent, Batman is Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man is Peter Parker.
At one time, Wonder Woman was Diana Prince, but that is no more. She is constantly Wonder Woman. Give her a duel identity. It does add conflict. That is why the 70's WW worked so perfectly.
4. Weaknesses. WW is immortal and is on par with Superman as far as power. Give her limits.
5. Actresses. It needs to be an unknown. Lynda Carter was an unknown and she is the still the pinnacle of WW. Artists still use her likeness when drawing WW. Lynda would be perfect as WW's mother: Queen Hippolyta.
A Wonder Woman movie can be made. It just needs the right parts and a great script.
I think Beyonce would be awesome for the role. It fits her on stage persona.
Um, no. I could make a list of 100 other people that would be great for it besides Beyawnce. WW should be a fresh unknown actress from a large casting call, not an easily recognizable person with career baggage.
As far as unknown people that would be a great Wonder Woman there is a Model that is working out of Atlanta Georgia. http://Www.Tempastsisland.com. She would be perfect...
Catherine Zeta Jones !!
I would love to be Wonder Woman! I got asked by Six Flags to be her. If I wasn't busy planning a wedding, I would have done it! I'm 99.9% sure I am Wonder Woman. If anyone has any ideas on how I can get the opportunity, hit me up!
More importantly WHO CARES? No one.
You obviously do because you took the time to read this and to comment.
I don,t. Who cares
How I know you don't know what you are talking about:
1. You reference Twilight.
2. None of the actors playing Superman has been remotely Supermannish with the exception of George Reeve. To even pretend Christopher Reeve was decent is a shocker and the movies themselves were all horrible from the Salkind junk to the reboots.
3. Bad logic – just because there is an audience for one video game heroine does not mean there is an audience for one kinda lame but also really kinda lame comic book heroine.
Face it – WW is just not a good sell. She may be iconic and people can name her, but that does not mean they want to see a movie about her.
The fact that you think the first Superman Movie is junk proves you to be an idiot who knows nothing about comic fandom. Please go away now.
JohnV with this comment you've proved many points against your favor. Calling someone an idiot it falls in the same category as what James earlier did to you in your comment. Get it together buddy!
There are a couple problems with Wonder Woman working out in a movie. First she's too much of a do-gooder in a world of super hero movies with a dark edge. It's hard to add complexity to a one-sided character. Hard, not impossible. Lynda Carter typecast this role so memorably that it's difficult to see beyond anyone but her. Maybe there's a new story here with a different character of similar origins (say a troubled yet heroic daughter or niece with the same type of powers.) Maybe make Wonder Woman a matronly character who advises another female import from Paradise Island. The costume works fine in a comic book and the 1970s. That's another issue. If you look at Jessica Alba's Fantastic 4 costume, it's streamlined, modern without screaming "American flag." Subtle but still able to kick ass is always good. http://www.terryaley.com
Wonder Woman is one of the only super heroes who's killed a man. How is that not dark enough for modern audiences? She's a complex character– both compassionate and cold. Only someone who knows nearly nothing about her would presume she's too one-sided to build an engaging narrative around.
one sided character? dont try and comment on someone you have no clue about...twat!
I think Alexandra Daddario would be the perfect new Wonder Woman, she already has fighting experience in Percy Jackson , so training her won't be a challenge. She has the body, the height and the incredibly beautiful face paired with one the most amazing eyes I have ever seen!!
I think they should really play up the S&M context of WW. A woman who can force men to tell the truth and yet – if her hands are tied – has to submit utterly, what's not to love.
With LOTS of bondage!! Wonder woman was all about bondage! If she wasn't tying someone up, she was tied up!
Beat me to it by 5 minutes!
Her creator – the only CIA agent in the comic book hall of fame – was in a serious poly-am relationship. His wife and he had alive in nanny who wore metal gauntlets – a'la WW – at all times.
yep WW is essentially his sex fantasy, his perfect woman & just like all sex fantasy OC's, she a huge Mary Sue.
I honestly don't care if they make it or not. It would probablt be good and all,..
But right now all I care aboout is the Jungle Movie!!!!!!! It's for "Hey Arnold!" the movie that actually needs to be created.
In the cold, hard logic of Hollywood, it should be pretty simple.
Wonder Woman Movie + Joss Whedon Writing and Directing = $ 100,000,000.00+ domestic box office.
Why would you say that? Have any of his movies made that much? I love Whedon, but from a business standpoint, he hasn't lit up the box office. Hoping Avengers is a home run of course.
And to the original poster. I would think the recent tv show that had the plug pulled before even airing has probably scared DC off a movie anytime soon. And Green Lantern wasn't a huge hit either. But would love some Wonder Woman! Especially if Morena Baccarin starred.
megan fox is a greek goddess. Looks goood in boots and a whip! Wow what action. Blockbuster material. Dont even need a plot. Just need sun, water, explosives, and evil queen, maybe Angela Jole. Big Buck Movie
Three reasons why Wonder Woman is different from every other mainstream hero:
1. She was born and RAISED in a Utopian society. She is a foreigner in every sense of the word. In some versions of her story, she initially speaks ancient Greek and must learn English upon arriving in America. Clarke Kent's always bitching about not fitting in among humans, but Wonder Woman is truly an outsider. She's plucked from a perfect, peaceful society and dropped into a broken, violent world.
2. She's not just out to catch criminals. She wants to REFORM them too. In several comics, she whisks them away to reformation island where they are rehabilitated. Bottom line: She is profoundly compassionate, even to criminals.
3. As far as I know, she's the only main stream super hero who has ever killed someone. When Superman was beating the shit out of Batman under Maxwell Lord's influence, she clutched Max by the neck and demanded to know how to save her friend. He responds "Kill me." She snaps his neck. Damn, that's cold. Why is it that the only super hero with the balls to defy the one unbreakable rule is a woman? 'Cause Wonder Woman's bad-ass... that's why!
I would so go see a Wonder Woman movie!!! There is tons of WW material to shape into an entertaining but nuanced film like Nolan's Batman series. She should definitely lose the star spangled panties though. Casting anyone? I vote for Eliza Dushku.
Killed someone? Maybe in the DC Superhero world. Marvel heros kill plenty... I used The Punisher as an example.
We're talkin' DC here, babe. The Punisher is an entirely different type of superhero.
Yeah, i've always found that Paradise Island stuff incredibly hard to swallow. Oh sure when it was written the idea of a seperatist matriarchy was a funny concept, but look at paradise island for second & it comes off more like hell then paradise.
1. Stalled Culture: There culture has stalled at a point more then 3000 years into the past. A good way to look to see if a culture is moving forward is to look at its art & architecture (if its stalled the civilization is floundering & will die).
2. No industry: They produce nothing, except for weapons. Possibly they create simple goods out of natural materials, but this has never been demonstrated. however we always see them creating weapons.
3. No Companionship: Its an island without men, where children, even toys of babies are banned. No sexual relationships unless you are into girls, no chance to ever have children. You can't even pretend with the aid of a toy, as even toys of children are banned.
4. Facist Theocratic Military Dictatorship: The leader of there society is leader for life, as enforced by the gods who back here up & she is also immortal so that "leader for life" thing has suddenly become quite al ong time. No industry exists, but everyone must perform mandatory military training, everyday.
5. Sexist View Point: Every single woman on paradise island is told they are training to defend there home from attacks by "Mans World." So if they get attacked by Nazis (as has happened) then they aren't being attacked by evil nazi's... No they are being attacked by mans world. The fact that women also live there & contirubte to the world, is completely overlooked because men live there too. That kind of complete hatred towards a gender is the very definition of Misandry.
Like i said, a little hard to swallow in this day and age.
All these points you've listed are totally true. They also provide fertile ground for an interesting and challenging story. Wonder Woman's world may be a utopia, but only because it's missing human diversity. It's easy to create utopia in a homogeneous society! Exploring the clash between her Eastern, pagan morality and our western ideals could be very poignant in an age where the East and West are increasingly forced to intersect on various economic and cultural levels. Honestly, I think her Greek mythological/ pagan roots work to her advantage. People are still fascinated by mythology, and the clash of cultures would create some interesting tension.
Hey Matt what comic book are you reading.
1. The Amazons do have high tech avible to them but they keep it hidden(example wene atacked by OMAC cyborgs they turned the purple healing ray into A death ray).
2. If you go by the novelisation of the anamated movie the Amazons could have kids if they wanted to but there imortal and don't need replacements(after years of enslavement and abuse by Ares and his minions some dont want to)
3. As for Hypolta being Queen for life she would step down if her sisters asked her to(last year an Amazon named Akelon staged A cou data and tried to murder Diana)
4. No industry in issue #614 the Queen approves the building of A desalantion plant to supply them with fresh water if there aquifers run low
A relatively unknown Helen Slater starred as Supergirl in 1984 but she was surrounded by a strong supporting cast in Peter O'Toole, Faye Dunaway, Peter Cook, Mia Farrow and Hart Bochner. (I blame Brenda Vaccaro for wrecking the movie because her ding-a-ling airhead character was given too much screen time.) David Odell (Nate and Hayes, The Dark Crystal) wrote the screenplay and Jeannot Szwarc (Somewhere in Time, a slew of tv shows) directed.
Yes, they were trying to capitalize off the Superman movies but my point here is that maybe the studios remember this movie and are afraid to try again?
I didn't think there was somebody out there who could be cast as Wonder Woman. Then came the women's world cup and HOPE SOLO.
i think megan fox would be a great wonder woman
Hope she wears tight shorts. She can pin me anytime. I would love to see her wonder weapons.
i heard she had two wonder weapons and a hooter scooter.
Megan Fox would need a movie such as this to re-establish herself in Hollywood, after her conflict with Speilberg.
I don't think "it" needs to be re-established.
megan fox? puke
Bridget Regan!!! She would be perfect for the role
I wore one of my Wonder Woman shirts to three area farmer's markets last month and got SO many comments on it. Men and women said how much they really loved Wonder Woman and several people talked to me about how disappointed they are that there hasn't been a Wondy movie yet.
Wondy has DIEHARD fans (like me) and run-of-the-mill fans who think what she represents is pretty cool. Some folks above have said that they find the character boring, but lots of people (like me) find Batman and Superman pretty boring and tiresome and hard to relate to. I think it really boils down to the mostly male big wigs at DC and WB not having any faith in the character. And the eye-roll worthy fanboys (who, unfortunately, make up the majority of comics fandom) who only pay attention to superheroines if they are drawn with boob windows and have their asses out.
But, from this feminist fanboy's vantage point ... and from the enthusiasm in my local community, I think DC and WB is missing out on what could be a really awesome film franchise.
I think Roseanne Barr is interested in playing the part of WW. I'd love to see her act the role in a comical appoach. She could have magic spit and power farts to subdue the bad guys.
Thanks Honey I'm in training now.
The pilot for the recent tv series was really lame. Like 1970's junk... We need a bad-ass female, dark like the new batman movies. Butt kicker, stay away from the too cutesy actors...
One idea is to have it done as a trilogy. Starting off with a story of gods wanting to take back the world. She turns on them and fights for humanity – in the end of the first movie, being exiled by the gods.
Would make a good story line – "what else is worth fighting for, if not for humanity?"
I agree. Much as I loved the Linda Carter TV series that wasn't the true comic book character. I think too many people only know WW from the TV series and that has colored everyone's view of what WW is about. I would love to see a movie about her becoming WW. And. as long as she become WW in red, white and blue she doesn't need star spangled panties. Wolverine didn't need to stay in yellow spandex to kick a**!
I had read awhile back of some who believed that Zooey Deschanel should play the part.
Anyone ever read the original first issues of Wonder Woman comics? They are very twisted. The man who invented Wonder Woman was some kind of bondage freak. WW gets tied up and ball gaged in almost every issue, and that was in the 40s and 50s. Wonder Woman may have evolved over the years into some kind of "empowering" roll model for women, but she started out as a weirdo's sex object. Then came Lynda Carter, everybody's sex object. It’s a catch-22 for a film maker. WW is sexy but the more you play to that, the harder it is to take her seriously. If you try to make her less sexy with blue pants or anything else, the mostly teen male audience will lose interest. Plus, all of the DC superhero movie stink. I'd love a good WW movie. So, I'll wait for DC to figure out how to make one.
You had Catwoman.
Make Wonder Woman a period piece like Captain America then bring her into present day helping out Superman and The Dark Knight with special appearance by the Green Lantern easy enough and keep the original removal skirt, no heels but wedged boots... think Xena, Kill Bill, Tomb Raider meets 300/Gladiator
This article got one thing wrong from the very beginning. When you ask someone three superheroes wonder woman IS NOT going to be mentioned by almost anyone. She is one of those heroes that is more of a side character and not really a main character. The top 3 are probably going Superman, Spider-man, and Batman. I already can tell this guy is a pretty hardcore DC fan, noticing how he has only mentioned DC characters and seems to respect Wonder Woman a lot. Wonder Woman just isn't that intriguing and honestly I don't want to learn about her, and I don't think anyone else does. She just isn't interesting, even though I do know her storyline, I still don't like her. She just isn't interesting.
Congrats! You made a moron of yourself.
The reason he didn't mention Spider-man is because he's a marvel character, not DC.
Love it when a moron calls someone else a moron.There was no mention of Marvel or DC in the the 3 superhero comment.
I have sure she will be mentioned. In my country a (bad) music band make a song that cite wonder woman,superman, lex luthor,penguin. I doubt they are experts in comics and super heroes. it's just popular culture.
So is the KKK & 9/11. The term "Popular Culture" does not mean something is actually popular.
I sure wish I could play wonder woman! I have long dark hair, a lovely figure and Wonder Woman was my hero as a child! But nooooo you have to be rich to push your way into stardom, (not like back in the day when you EARNED your hollywood star on the walk of fame, you just buy it now) Whatever, atleast they aren't seriously concidering beyonce or megan fox to be wonder woman, that is just plain stupid!
I probably wouldn't watch it anyway..most of today's actresses carry themselves like whores setting us back another 100 years..it takes class to be wonderwoman as much as beauty..beyonce is a horrible actress, i'll deffinately wont see it if she was in it.
This all seems a bit like its knocking off Olivia Munn.. imho.
How much crime fighting can really be done in the kitchen?
shave your eyebraws cave dweller.
hey, not cool! She'll be busy fighting crimes 3 full weeks a month so that's an accomplishment on its own.
and in that fourth week she will be more fearce than superman and batman combined..nice try neanderthals :P nowonder you have a problem getting a woman..lol
Whoever plays her, needs to be tall, dark hair, beautiful, but very athletic. She can't be all gangly and uncoordinated looking like a model.
I don't know if she can act, but MMA fighter, and American Gladiator Gina Carano fits the bill.
I know she's an athlete and not an actress, but Hope Solo would make a pretty bad@$$-looking Wonder Woman.
How about an author about an article that knows what they are talking about. Sad that she is a co-editor. Comic Books are the best untapped source for a lot of great stories, characters and originality. Not some rehash of a movie that never should have been made in the first place. Unfortunately its how these comic book movies are handled by the production company that is the issue. Too many suits want to put in their ideas and screw up the original story/character, which takes away control from the comic book company that created it, thus producing some lame version of the original story.
So as my name states, i'm confused. Wonderwoman the movie is currently in production???? So what are we talking about here? Why it took so long to come out? Well, mainly because it's going to flop....really.....really.....really bad. Nobody cares. Amazon women flying invisible jets may sound good to a pervy comic book geek but to the average audience this is a horrible idea. As we all should know by now, the success of any story, be it comic book or movie, is determined by the villain and not the hero. If the villain is weak, then the hero isn't that great for overcoming a weak villain. Wonderwoman, well.......yeah, not even redbox worthy.
No, there is not a WW movie currently in production. This is the point the author is attempting to make. There should be. Wonder Woman is an iconic character in the world of comic book superheroes.
Warners was developing a WW movie with Joss Wheadon at the head as writer and producer, but it got dropped. That was 2009-10.
Anyone who thinks Wondy is a ra ra, on dimensional character like Supes or Cap (oh wait the Cap movie pretty much proved that wrong) hasn't read enough Wonder Woman. Personally I'd like to see Warners try something like the Avengers and make an adaption of Matt Wagner's Trinity.
We're all waiting for her. We just don't know that we really want it. When will it finally happen? After a coalition of the willing get up and roll up their sleeves. Who is this movie for? It's for everyone, of course. Don't just believe in the looks and the franchise. Believe in the Wonder of it all. Believe we can be inspired by a Wonder Woman.
forget Wonder Woman bring her to the big screen via Justice League. That movie should have already been made!
Worked for Marvel with the Avengers.... so why not DC
Yea lets watch her do the Dishes, and Clean the Rugs...this is the Worst MovIe idea i've heard in a while, right up there with the Human Centipede
Wonder Woman won't be made into a film that audiences take seriously because studios can't take her seriously. Someone at DC needs to do the job of selling her as a compelling intellectual property to WB before she'll ever properly make it to film. In reality, I suspect that they'll introduce her as a character in the now-inevitable Justice League movie, and if she tests well with audiences, she'll spin off into her own franchise. That way they can make the initial monetary investment without staking it entirely on a character they don't believe in.
Megan Fox has the right look for WW, except that she's not tall or toned enough. I think the face matches pretty well though.
They need to bring back Jem and the Holograms as a movie..love the battle of the bands between the holograns, the misfits, and the stingers.. and the complicated life of Jerrica Benton,,why is the movie industry sleeping on this one???
A Gem movie would be a nice idea with all these reality shows like American Idol. But I wish a Dazzler film could be made too to supplement the X-Men's themes.
This author is a poser. She does not know what she is talking about and clearly does not collect, read or follow comic books at all. Green Lantern has more titles and is more popular amongst readers than Wonder Woman. It is clear that this author is simply mendacious. She claims that people claim wonder woman is boring...... yea really....... who are these people. SOunds like Fox's "some people are saying" BS. The fact is wonder woman is NOT considered boring by readers at all and she is getting her own TV show which would have the potential of reaching even more people than a movie. The fact that the Wonder Woman movie is not coming out yet is a good thing considering Beyonce was trying to get the part, which would have been a complete disaster. Its Better that the producers do take their time and tread carefully with this one When peole rush these scripts and casting decisions we ended up with messes like....... well...... The Green Lantern movie.
She isn't talking about the actual situation in the comics but talking about POPULAR CULTURE. Everyone know wonder woman. But green lantern with the movie many people ask " green lantern wasn't black?
There is no Wonder Woman television series. The tests bombed in the biggest possible way and the proposed series was canned before the first episode was even shot. Only test scenes were done.
wonderwoman??? it would be a snoozefest..
One notable exception that comes immediately to mind is Aliens with Sigourney Weaver.
Female superstar movies are rare. Last I remembered was "Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li" (2009). For a WonderWoman movie they might have to use Cher!
no one complains when they don't make chick flicks for guys. women centered action movies are not as profitable as male ones. catwoman with halle berry, elektra, tomb raider, ultra violet, aeon flux, columbiana, hanna, etc etc are all 2nd rate action movies never giant summer block busters released in the big block buster movie months may, june, and july. you cant justify putting a huge budget into a female centered action film, it won't profit as much as much as one with a male. so ya if they ever do make a wonder woman i expect it to be on the level of the aformentioned female centered action movies.
The problem with all of the female characters you mentioned is that they were all second-string (or lower) characters. Hence, they were not smashing successes in the theaters. Wonder Woman, on the other hand, is as iconic as Superman himself. Face it - if yo, your parents and your GRANDPARENTS can recognize a character at a brief glance, then she's got some multi-generational appeal. All she'd need is a decent story and a butt-kicking director.
Last I heard about a WW movie being in the works was 3 or 4 years ago. Maybe the guys behind the project panicked and shelved it, when Linsay Lohan said she wanted the role!
Maybe I am alone, but if they wanted this to be a success they would have to go Natalie Portman 100%. “V for Vendetta”, “Pirates of the Caribbean”, and even “Your Highness” shows that this is in her wheelhouse. Also, who better to direct than Christopher Nolan, look what he did for the Batman series (hell, I hate Superman and will actually go see his version). I know it’s asking a lot, but if you are going to do something, go big.
And I am calling it now, the new Spiderman will be terrible!
how did u see Natalie Portman in Pirates of the Caribbean?!
Natalie was in Pirates?
Um... I think you have Natalie mixed up with Keira Knightley... Natalie=Vendetta, Keira=Pirates, Natalie AND Keira = Star Wars
Don't forget about this math too: weight of Natalie + weight of Keira = 1/2 of an amazon.
I would fall down laughing if either actress was offered the role.
Wonder Woman was suppossed to be made a few years back & they were going to have Beyonce play her. What an awful casting decision that would have been. Remember how they made the Flintstones & had Rosie O'Donnel play Betty. Casting ruins more movies. Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor. Cmon man.
Wonder Woman: Gina Torres. She'd be perfect.
Yes, yes and more yes. She was such a bad@$$ in Firefly, she'd make an awesome Wonder Woman.
Zoe Saldana. All I am saying.
1) Be thankful that we are not getting the WW tv series, NBC made the right call. It's better to have NO project than a BAD project.
2) Why a Green Lantrern movie rather than a Wonder Woman movie? Simple. The GL comics are amonng the few titles that can sell better than MARVEL Comics. Wonder Woman, with DC still being cluess as to how to hadle her ... not so much.
3) We could have had a WW movie already. The powers that be decided that SPEED RACER would be more profitable that either the LOGAN'S RUN remake or Wonder Woman.
4) Wonder Woman was and is a great character when done right. Problem is WB/DCE is still clueless on how to handle her these days.
I get this was all about movie treatment, but the writer doesn't consider there's a new Wonder Woman TV show in the works, a reboot of the 70's show starring Linda Carter.
The reboot TV show was not picked up by anyone as of yet. I saw the pilot episode, it was good enough for a CW show at least but I think it was originally pitched to NBC.
Why all the bashing of GL? He is no second tier character. He's been around since the 50's as Hal Jordan and As Alan Scott, the Golden Age GL, the character actually predates WW. GL was a memeber of the Justice Society and WW was the secretary. GL at times sells up to 4 monthly comics while WW has never sold more than one monthly title.
I want a WW movie done properly. There were a few fatal flaws in this year's GL movie. The usual DC movie flaw is to try to put too much into one movie presumably because there is doubt that there will ever be another one made or that it will be too boring otherwise. The first GL movie should have just stayed on Earth and battled a few of his earth rogues.
The biggest problem with the Thor movie was that there was no superhero action on Earth at all.
The biggest problem with the Thor movie was that there was a Thor movie. It was baaaad.
I'm soo glad I found someone who agrees with me. It was like a Power Ranger movie on crack.
Aardie, ovverall, you make some valid points but are not on everything.
1) "GL at times sells up to 4 monthly comics while WW has never sold more than one monthly title."
Not true. Originally, Wonder Woman had a monthly title and a quarterly title.
2) "The first GL movie should have just stayed on Earth and battled a few of his earth rogues."
No, the first GL movie should have had Hector Hammond gaining his full abilites at the same time Hal became GL.
I agree with all your other points.
Well, the fact that the pilot bombed soooo bad with execs (worse than Aquaman) guarantees that it will not happen anytime soon.
Linda Carter...where are you!?!
Tom said: "I'm sick and tired of comicbook movies. Get some creativity back Hollywood. Gosh."
I hate this complaint. The Lord of the Rings is based on books. The Godfather was based on a book. The Shawshank Redemption was based on a book. Schindler's List was based on a book. Wizard of Oz was a remake. Scarface was a remake. Fistful of Dollars was a remake. The Man Who Knew Too Much was a remake. The Maltese Falcon was a remake. Hollywood has been rehashing ideas or taking ideas from other media outlets since the earliest days of movies. Why would you expect anyhing different today?
Thank you. People seem to forget that Hollywood traditionally looks to other mediums for their content. Adaptations and remakes are and always have been the norm, not the exception.
Seriously? Books and comic books are not the same thing. get a clue please.
Get a clue? Kind of harsh. Please help me get a clue, I guess. Why are they so different?
Books and comic books not being 'the same thing' is not an attitude shared in many other countries. Graphic novels, manga, animated films (a la Triplets of Bellevue) all illustrate that illustrated works can have depth equal to many written works. I doubt that any would argue that there is greater depth in the Twilight series of books then, say, actually it's shallower then pretty much EVERY comic book, manga, or graphic novel ever written.
Yeah go read anything (novel or comic) by Neil Gaiman and say that.
Yeah, well said. People think there's no creativity in making comic books? Under a Geico commercial rock much. Especially when you look at how many creatives working in comics have gone to make books or appear regularly in the credits of hit shows with no relation to comic books whatsoever. Plus, who doesn't realize by now that authors have been writing comic books? And need to be shown how. Style and technique differs for television, books, poetry, plays, musicals, spoken word, so on and comics.
They are screwing up big time with Wonder Woman. As a gamer I think she could easily be the female version of Kratos and have her own 300-ish mythic movie. But Hollywood isn't known for it's common sense so I doubt anything like that would ever happen. And there's also the issue of having a WW who is both very strong and feminine at the same time, something not many "strong" women can actually do so they usually end up just behaving man-like instead.
So who would be able to play Wonder Woman? I can't think on many known actresses that could pull it off... Maybe Milla Jovovich?
I don't think they're ever going to be able to make a Justice League movie comparable to the Avengers movie if they don't get to work on Wonder Woman. That's just a fact. The last thing DC needs is a sausage party with Batman, Supes, and Green Lantern in theaters. I mean, just think about how bland that would be. Without Wonder Woman there, it really isn't the Justice League. It's a boys' club. And Joss Whedon will be laughing about it all the way to the bank. And we'll all be laughing with him.
Slightly OT, but in my opinion at least, they wouldn't need WW for a Justice League movie...because the best JL movie they could make would be the Giffen-DeMatteis Justice League International. THAT was entertainment. I'd love to see someone find the next George Clooney-Brad Pitt duo to portray Booster Gold and Blue Beetle.
>> Obligatory "Bwah-ha-ha-ha!" :D
Wonderwoman actually was created by a man, who had major b.ondage fantasies. I'd much rather we glorify a character written by a woman that wasn't written specifically for male fan service.
uhhh .. no she wasn't. A husband/wife team created her as a new type of hero with strong (for the time) female characteristics. Perhaps the Japanese version has her in a hentai role, but the otakus can keep fantasizing.
Characer has major undertones, lasso, manacles etc. I didn't read about the wife's involvement, but it wouldn't suprise me.
Love WW, but I'd agree that maybe the problem we've been having getting WW to the big (or even the little) screen is that there are "too many dicks on the dance floor" and we need a women involved in it's development.
Not sure I care as much about her beginnings as where we can take her, in 2011.
I'll take comic book movies over endless and pointless remakes any day!
Yeah I wana see the lasso of truth(or what ever she called that darn rope) the bullet reflecting bracelets the boomarang teara and her super human strength on the big screen (and don't forget the invisible jet!!)
Gotta have Linda Carter as some role in the movie, she still looks great after all these years!
"So it would stand to reason that Wonder Woman, who has been a major part of the DC Universe since 1941, would get the big-screen treatment long before a second-tier character that only recently entered the general public consciousness."
A guy with an all powerful weapon on his finger is much more interesting movie premise than a woman with a lasso that makes people tell the truth and an invisible mode of transportation. Green Lantern and his related comic titles have consistantly top sellers in recent years while Wonder Woman is lucky when she breaks the top-50. Her comic book popularity died 50 years ago and her mainstream appeal stems from a campy television show from the 70s. Her stories have become boring because the character is just not as interesting as others.
Great another man hating man bashing woman movie. Nothing new here folks move along....
I KNOW! How many have there been this year alone?? There was that one where... uh, maybe the movie where... nope. Nothing.
Come on, fanboys, let's get start a grassroots movement to back a creative team with the experience and talent to actually make a decent Wonder Woman movie. Here's who I propose:
Executive Producer: Bruce Timm (of DC Animation)
DIrector: Kathryn Bigelow (The Hurt Locker, K-19:The Widowmaker, Strange Days)
Any nominations for writers? Cast, I don't much care about... except Catherine Zeta-Jones as Hippolyta is pretty hard to argue with.
Sherrilyn Kenyon should write the screenplay. She is the current go-to author for kick a$$ women. As for who would play WW – nix on Megan Fox (too $lutty) and the chick who was supposed to be in the tv show was just lacking something. I like the suggestion of the MMA fighter and Hope Solo (Now THAT's a superhero name! The daughter of Han and Leia – she has the force and can fly anything!)
Has Gail Simone made the leap yet? She's got an ear for dialogue that so many screenwriters (and comic book writers) are sadly lacking.
Here's the problem with comic book movies: Directors rewrite the script to give the story some "Zing" problem is the story was successful in the comicbook and truth be tol the director just screws it up by putting their thumb print on it. Want proof: Fantastic Four, Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Suffer, Daredevil, Electra,Both Hulks, The Third Spiderman and my fav X-Men 3 (How do you screw up the Dark Phoenix Saga?) It's already written idiots! don't mess with it. That is why WW will never be successful.
Is that why they are remaking Fantastic Four in 2013?
I only "wonder" what woman can play the part. I mean Mrs. Jole-Pitt is getting to old for that kind of part and I personnally don't think any other actress could pull it off without appearing phoney. If they got a good actress that would take the part serious and understood the character I would pay to see that movie(invisible jet and all).
I see the big hurdle is that by the time that Hollywood Executives find & decide on the actress and get her on screen, she will be yesterdays news.
Sorry to say but Men have a longer shelf life than Women.
What is Wonder Woman's super power anyway?
The ability to nag to death.
She has super strength, can fly, and is virtually immortal.
Please teach the rest of these internet hooligans how to write and reesarch!
The only way they can make this movie is if they hire an actress that totally doesn't look like Wonder Woman and change the way the costume looks and change the story. In fact just make a completely random movie and call it Wonder Woman.
And I, I do not want this movie. I'm sick and tired of comicbook movies. Get some creativity back Hollywood. Gosh.
What's not creative about comic books?
Say what?! All these nathsayers! Love comic books. Love the movies. I think the movies are introducing these great role models to theier medium – film. Yes, the tv pilot was pitiful, but it isn't the character. It is the producers who are screwing up! I am still waiting to see if charlie's angels (another strong female premise) makes it through the "update". Seriously?! The angels are now criminals? It is that over the top desire to "make it original" that is hurting WW. new costume is horrible! Leave a good thing alone and worry about the script and casting. I think Angelina Jolie or Jennifer Garner could fill the boots. As the blogger noted, where there is a will the is a way on casting. WW should go into development!
Angie is now too old for the part. Jennifer Garner is nearly too old as well. The only way to make characters like this work is to find an unknown for the part.
Olivia Wilde would make a great Wonder Woman.
Really, they need to focus on the Amazonian aspect of her character, its ridiculous that the TV pilot skipped over it. She's an Amazon, make that the core of her character, and show her as a tough, and ruthless warrior. Amazon's are cool, sexy, and all-round awesome, making an entertaining film about Amzon's should be as easy as falling off a log.
The 2009 animated DVD movie did a great job.
As for the costume, I suggest something along the lines of the recent comic-book redesign, but make the bustier entirely armoured and replace the boots with metallic golden gleave boots. Basically amp up the amazonian look.
As for villains I thought Ares works well, as does Circe.
Guilermo Del Toro, Kathryn Bigelow, Peter Jackson, Ken Branagh, would all be good choices.
But alasI I would not expect too much from the same Hollywood which is clueless when it comes to female led stories and which took the rich and diverse lore of over 20 years of Transformers comics and made 3 awful movies which missed the entire point of Transformers.
Hmmm. The daughter of a Greek "goddess" who lived 2,500 years ago. Are you serious?
Superman is a super strong alien from another planet. Batman is a billionaire who spends his time fighting crime with gadgets. Spiderman got bitten by a radioactive spider. When you put it that way, ANYthing sounds retarded.
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